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     JJ2 competetive scene: trustworthy? | [q]2012-01-17 15:59
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Hi all,

I wish to give you guys some information that may alter the entire jj2 competetive scene.
First, no, and I mean no game which is played at the ladder is trustworthy anymore. Every game may have someone playing with radar and it isn't traceable.

Now players may be wondering why in the world I would state such thing. First of all, I got my hands on Radar v2 today. I know exactly what is possible now. The levellist this radar version works on: Semi, JE, BBlair, BBswing, silwi, Gauntlet, Epitome, FF, WW, Distopia, super, TCS, DW and Zaitox.

I can test it out with you guys if you want, I dont care. I can give all information by just checking radar basically. I even know everybodies health.

Ah, I also dont need teamchat anymore because I know when my flagcarrier is low and I know when to shout "S" because I can see enemy flagcarrier getting 1. All automatically.

Now I cannot tell how long this has been around already, I just know from a source he's been given a couple of untraceable Radar versions already.

I'll be able to show screenshots and I will be able to give evidence of everything I am stating. You can come visit me at my house and I'll show you everything (of radar *cough*) for that matter.

Either way, laddering me is probably not gonna happen now anymore and I am aware of that. But I just wish players to know what is actually possible at jj2 and what you're dealing with. I also wish to get a discussion going and for someone to finally make whatever program that detects cheating - may if even be a program everybody has to use locally. That said, that'll probably be bypassable too so I might as well not play anything competetive at all anymore.

Enjoy.

Coders perhaps go here instead of reading this spam.
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#251 | [q]2012-01-20 18:25
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who got banned from ib by SR (reason cheating)

Well I can't say for sure He was cheating, but like Veg said Hakum was stupid enugh to keep asking Artem about radar and for leaking information about him possibly having radar/using it. I could accept it but our members didn't like him much, especially Sliver or Sasori, He used to tell them He decides about everything in ib) and He will kick them out. Also MS if you think someone is using radar only because one round They pwned you 0-10 and in next you have won 8-2 then it is so sad. What if you cheat because in first round you couldnt even score once and in next you won 8-2 - it is more suspicious. Also in next post you said
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CDF didnt accuse iB, all what happened was a fight, had nothing to do with cheating.
So decide man what you really think.

I also did know about DL's mission well We saw She didn't leave CC in their squad and she wanted to catch Hakum cheating but it was more like ,,hey lemme save the world because i have nothing to do in my winter holiday time,, Hakum wasn't that stupid to convince himself to Darklight. Hehe guys the most funny thing here is that some people say thanks to artem now just because he said He will make antiradar for ladder matches, He made 2 radars and a lot of other shits and yea lets thank him because He will make antiradar. In my opinion if radar2 is in the air We should pause ladder matches untill We will make something avoid people who keep playing with radar. I mostly agree with moti here, it is so big drama queen, especially DL's with her ,,spy kid"mission.
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#252 | [q]2012-01-20 21:05
Well, SR, why would they cheat if they already lost a ladder? 10-0 is impossible to reach. Only to get a tie, but it's kinda hard to do such a comeback. They wouldn't risk.

AND IF ANYONE'S GONNA POST ABOUT CDF AND IB AND ANYTHING ELSE OFFTOPIC, I WILL HONESTLY ASK THE FORUM MOD TO DELETE THOSE POSTS AND BLOCK HIM/HER FROM COMMENTING FOR 2 DAYS. IT'S ENOUGH OF ACCUSING ALREADY...
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#253 | [q]2012-01-20 21:11
CDF and IB are cool emo
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#254 | [q]2012-01-20 21:23
nuff said
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#255 | [q]2012-01-21 10:11
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BLOCK HIM/HER FROM COMMENTING FOR 2 DAYS


I wish I could...


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#256 | [q]2012-01-23 00:15
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And if you refer to this:
http://jazzjackrabbit.net/index.php?league=1&season=1&op=descr&id=1065


Hordy was just 2 good so you thought that we are cheating emo
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#257 | [q]2012-01-23 01:04
I have another idea.
Put jj2 on STEAM. emo


Retired.
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#258 | [q]2012-01-23 08:07
Elsewhere, projections have eliminated the application of Radar V2 for Jazz Jackrabbit 2 (non-plus).
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#259 | [q]2012-01-23 10:37
I posted this cuz he has been banned and can't do it himself.

[10:18:47] *** ib)AhMaD joined the game
[10:18:57] ib)AhMaD: wtf jj22
[10:19:03] HordyCx: someone hacked it
[10:19:19] HordyCx: artem most likely
[10:19:24] ib)AhMaD: sure
[10:19:31] ib)AhMaD: he is here
[10:20:39] nothing: and
[10:20:41] nothing: click update players
[10:21:07] : IM AN INVISBLE BOMB EXPLOSION THAT HURTS EVERY1
[10:21:31] HordyCx: artem is that u?
[10:21:40] ib)AhMaD: yes he is
[10:21:43] : I told already, I am an invisible bomb explosion
[10:23:40] : Purple pwn dot
[10:23:41] ib)AhMaD: hmm what now
[10:24:05] ib)AhMaD: unearth bad him
[10:24:07] ib)AhMaD: ban
[10:24:14] : emo
[10:24:17] ib)AhMaD: x
[10:24:40] HordyCx: man why are you doing this
[10:24:49] : doing what
[10:24:53] ib)AhMaD: its fuck only
[10:24:59] HordyCx: u hacked every server'
[10:25:10] : not every, djazz's server is not hacked
[10:25:14] HordyCx: ..
[10:25:15] ib)AhMaD: omg
[10:25:22] HordyCx: ok w/e
[10:25:35] HordyCx: but tell why whats the reason for doing it?
[10:25:44] : zeal banned me from every server
[10:26:02] HordyCx: cuz you made radarv2 dude
[10:26:06] HordyCx: i would do the same
[10:26:16] : they fixed ladder before he banned me
[10:26:17] : emo
[10:26:38] : What's their problemA
[10:26:44] : ban grytolle for making cool hax
[10:26:44] ib)AhMaD: lol
[10:26:52] HordyCx: :{D
[10:27:06] : Ban shelly for making spambot
[10:27:11] : Ban sfaizst for making spyware
[10:27:12] : Its simple
[10:27:35] ib)AhMaD: maybe u can talk with him
[10:27:37] HordyCx: yes but radarv2 is not detectable
[10:27:41] HordyCx: and others are
[10:27:50] HordyCx: also i saw how it workds
[10:27:51] : no, cool hax is NOT detectable
[10:27:53] HordyCx: works*
[10:27:54] : I even have it's source code
[10:28:09] : Everyone can use unlimited ammo! and no one
[10:28:12] : will notice it
[10:28:14] : ban gry now!!!!
[10:28:21] HordyCx: well
[10:28:34] HordyCx: thats kinda true
[10:28:41] : :>
[10:29:50] : |||||||>
[10:30:28] HordyCx: i think you should write all this on jjnet
[10:30:34] ib)AhMaD: ye
[10:30:35] HordyCx: isntead of ruining whole community
[10:30:38] : I think I am banned from JJnet
[10:30:40] : :>
[10:30:44] HordyCx: ok
[10:30:47] HordyCx: ill write it for you
[10:30:48] HordyCx: :>
[10:30:53] : :> :> ok
[10:30:56] ib)AhMaD: emo
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#260 | [q]2012-01-23 11:33
Yeah, Let's ban Gry -_-'
Will reeeeeeeeaaaaalllyy help the current situation.

On other news, I'm making an anti-radar, because some ppl from CC asked me. for great justice emo

Quote:
Elsewhere, projections have eliminated the application of Radar V2 for Jazz Jackrabbit 2 (non-plus).

Projects I guess? And where, could you please link to it?


Nostalgia warning, well, at least if you're one of those ppl...
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#261 | [q]2012-01-23 11:37
Unlimited ammo was already featured in other trainers (for example mustardman's, where I stole matrix moves from), so nya!

Hostage tactics won't help you.


(Don't post for banned ppl btw, and don't go off topic: that quote isn't funny xd)
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#262 | [q]2012-01-23 11:50
Well, ATM Artem filled (almost) all servers with connections.

I just reclaimed mine. his IP: 91.144.177.91

It costs me only a sec to reclaim, so idc if he changes IP and tries it again.

Someone might wanna alert Zeal.



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#263 | [q]2012-01-23 12:30
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going out with a girl

May I refer you to the "Artem's Sexuallity" thread?

And I tottaly agree with your post.


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King
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#264 | [q]2012-01-23 12:31
insults arent gonna get us anywhere... also puttin ur dick in his mouth lol er... Punishing gry for makin cool hax as wktk said really wont help the current situation. I really dont see teh reason why should someone overfill all servers... certantly u got better stuff to do?


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#265 | [q]2012-01-23 12:43
Indeed.

Well, I hope zeal cleans this mess soon.


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#266 | [q]2012-01-23 13:30
I am sorry that I am Huj and some of you , most of you may know who I am, maybe if you are admin you will delete my post, whatever, I just want to know
who are those people?
Code:
176.33.37.94
83.29.186.59
Robee
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#267 | [q]2012-01-29 18:46



emo


[20:02:17] [ib)SlaYer]: cj what should we pick
RabidRabb
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#268 | [q]2012-03-21 21:27
Hey duh. if artem made the program why cant he make a program that detects it?
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#269 | [q]2012-03-22 12:38
If you kill someone, why can't you resurrect them?

Fixing up one's mistake is often various magnitudes more difficult then making those mistakes.
Also, there is the factor of the communities trust. Will they really want to use an anti cheat written by the person who leaked all those cheats in the first place?

I'm not saying Artem can't write it, only that it will rise difficulties, and not only technical ones...

Also, why isn't this old good-for-nothing rage thread closed yet...


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#270 | [q]2012-03-22 14:28
Indeed.

Also, the Resurrection spell is not cheap. You need a diamond, if I'm right.


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#271 | [q]2012-03-22 15:04
Yes, and no fortune picks here...

On a more serious note, If you and the other mods/admins agree I request this thread to be closed.
It served it's purpose of announcing the threat of radar to the community.

After that, it has only brought forth distrust, fights and spam. Not really the things a community needs.
I hope this can be locked, and the ppl who want to discuss/offer a solution can start a thread of their own.
I kinda hoped this thread had died, but unfortunately it seems resurrection spells here are cheaper...

Anyway, idk if Artem is still working on his anticheat, i haven't really seen him around which may also be caused by my recent inactivity (school).

btw, if you close this I'll ask it again somewhere else, but any news on this? http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/archive/index.php/t-15799.html


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#272 | [q]2012-03-22 15:20
I used to lock threads but then I took an arrow in the knee Grytolle told me I shouldn't, so I'm not really sure about locking. If he agrees I'll do it.


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#273 | [q]2012-03-22 15:22
Ok, well unless something interesting gets here I'll make this my last post in this thread.
If it can't be closed, I should let it die in peace. emo [this thread] emo


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#274 | [q]2012-03-22 15:29
It is also me who started the thread and I request this thread stays open emo
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#275 | [q]2012-03-22 16:03
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btw, if you close this I'll ask it again somewhere else, but any news on this? http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/archive/index.php/t-15799.html

You'd probably have more luck if you asked that in the JCF thread itself.


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