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     King's log | [q]2013-01-11 12:35
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logs restored, flaming removed

veg try harder to ignore king

king your mouth needs a thorough washing with soap... only snz comes close to you in the jjnet flamer ranking

when a mod removes a convo, youre not supposed to resume it, especially not off-topic
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#26 | [q]2013-01-11 12:20
cooba wrote:
Lithium wrote:
Wasn't it already suggested for Veg and you? emo

I don't get it. Just close it or remove it.


I don't get it, just close or remove all your offensive posts directed to me. Let's start with this post, first one: http://www.jazzjackrabbit.net/index.php?league=1&season=1&op=descr&id=2873 and don't mind me getting an admin to kick you off a server when you flame me.

Anyway, king was obviously provoking and knew very well what he was doing. He was pretending I was lying and expects me not to get pissed. Instead, he pretends to be surprised when I defend myself. IMO, he was wrong by doing so. He provoked me earlier in the game too already and that can easily be 'funniest moments' too if you wish. Sure I shouldn't have said "Fuck off" but after his provoking/acting surprised/etc etc imo he was acting very wrong and he expected me to flame him at some point. Then he goes and posts that at jj.net.

I should've put a 1000$ bet on cooba and moti posting here.
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#27 | [q]2013-01-11 13:20
King: Just to make things clear to you, since judging from your overnight replies, you might not have understood completely what I meant when we talked here and on skype:

You can criticize whoever you want to here, but you have to do it in a somewhat civilized manner. It's also nice if you address people clearly.

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Oh really? shuttup? Im not going to take crap or bullshit from this guy just becuz veg is his "clanmate".If you want to end a flamewar then dont say anything offesnive. About spamming on forums. Untill your pathetic meddling, i posted only one comment, so dont speak about bullshit about "spamming".


rewrite ->

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You want to silence me? I'm not going to stand for this just because Veg is your clanmate, Gry. If you want to end a flamewar, then don't say anything offensive. As far as spamming on the forums is concerned, I only posted on comment before you started meddling, so don't speak nonsense about "spamming".


Like I said on skype, you can criticize Veg in another thread if you want. Just don't ruin our only active one. You found it offensive when I told you to stop swearing and insulting? Have you seen your posts? As annoying as I sometimes find it when Veg feels the need to criticize people on this site, he does do his best to contain himself in the discussions in order to not escalate things completely. He was probably pretty pissed off when he saw your posting here, but there still isn't a single insult in hisreply:

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Which is after I CTO'd and you scored 10 seconds after I started CTOing. It's not the first time you're complaining/annoying me in such ways anyway.
Anyway, you pretty randomly said that to annoy me. Maybe you should not provoke/offend others either like maybe you did too right after:

[17:13:45] KingCx: wanted to copy chatlog
[17:13:48] IRF>JaguáR: lo
[17:13:50] IRF>JaguáR: lol
[17:13:51] spazico: lol
[17:13:54] KingCx: and you idiots kept talking

Very funny posting chatlogs like these. I'll remember it whenever you get pissed off and flame which happens more than enough too .


Also, since I was hoping this stuff would have ended last night, I didn't address this yet:
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Keep in mind however there were a lot of reports of your annoying CTO's exactly when enemy scores.
There were?


Anyway, Veg showed me some chatlogs from last night, so as far as I understand it, things went like this (Please correct me if my assessment of the situation seems flawed, because I didn't see all of the chatlog, so it's not theoretically impossible that Veg left out some part that makes him look bad):

1. Veg told you to stop airing him in a joking manner (that's how he tells me he intended it), but imo he failed completely at that, making it sound like you always air people and that's why you get any kills at all:
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[17:04:25] Veg4SpR[CC]: king: airhit production facility 24/7


Which does indeed make it understandable that you should provoke him a bit, though it does border on excessive:

2.
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[17:04:34] KingCx: okay you seem annoyed
[17:04:36] Veg4SpR[CC]: yse
[17:04:37] KingCx: are you annoyed?
[17:04:39] Rø$éCDF: H
[17:04:39] Rø$éCDF: H
[17:04:40] Rø$éCDF: H
[17:04:40] KingCx: am i bothering you?
[17:04:40] Rø$éCDF: H
[17:04:42] [IRF>JaguáR]: 3
[17:04:43] KingCx: are you getting pwnt?
[17:04:45] KingCx: does it hurt?


3. Then you guys seem to calm down, Veg making an attempt to clear things up by admitting that his team was losing fairly despite the occasional airhit:

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[17:09:04] Veg4SpR[CC]: anyway, we are definitely getting pwned
[17:09:06] spazico: nope
[17:09:07] Veg4SpR[CC]: but you have horrible timing
[17:09:12] Veg4SpR[CC]: so we scored 4x somehow
[17:09:13] Rø$éCDF: spazix
[17:09:14] Rø$éCDF: play
[17:09:15] KingCx: its stupid blackeye
[17:09:17] KingCx: he has the flag
[17:09:19] KingCx: he's always low
[17:09:20] Veg4SpR[CC]: thats why I am :@@@
[17:09:22] Veg4SpR[CC]: cause we have 0 control
[17:09:24] KingCx: and we'r never capable of getting C


4. You guys score on a cto, Veg gets a bit pissed off, which is how pretty much everyone reacts initially in such a situation, and you can't resist bringing up the old cw business. In doing so, you decide to exaggerate greatly by saying that this is something that happens all the time:

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[17:12:00] KingCx: funny veg you always seem to cto on scoring opportunities
[17:12:01] Rř$éCDF: soz
[17:12:04] Veg4SpR[CC]: what
[17:12:06] Veg4SpR[CC]: YOU were e1
[17:12:08] Veg4SpR[CC]: we were S
[17:12:10] Veg4SpR[CC]: and I CTO'd
[17:12:11] Veg4SpR[CC]: fuck off
[17:12:13] *** Veg4SpR[CC] left the game


As evident from the log, Veg decided not to make a huge deal about it. He simply left the game instead of properly flaming you. That would most likely have been the end of it, but apparently you hadn't had enough fun yet, so you decided to post the log on the forum, (1) partly because you think it's funny and (2) partly no doubt because you enjoy provoking Veg precisely because it's funny to you when he gets pissed off (see #1).

I've seen you on JJ2, and I know you like to provoke other good players (to your credit, you have the good taste of not trashtalking players who are clearly below your level). Personally I believe it's in good fun, and since I occassionally give you some trash talk too, I try to not make a big deal about it when you do it to me. (Though I would appreciate if you stuck to insulting me when you're actually involved in the game instead of making fun of me when you're not my teammate or opponent, like when I duelled and lost to Rose two days ago.) However, I don't believe that you and Veg are capable of trashtalking each other in good fun, so it would be a good idea for the both of you to try

1. not to insult each other's skills (or person, obviously) directly and

2. not do it by implication by blaming hits on lag (eventhough it's probably true when it happens; atleast I've never had the impression that either of you lie about such things) and most importantly

3. not to escalate things.


As far as everyone else is concerned:

Lithium, please consult me in the future before you remove chatlogs that are technically allowed in the topic since they're from JJ2 and aren't exceptionally sensitive or insulting. It would probably also have been better to move Veg's and King's discussion to a new thread at once. That way, atleast we don't provoke King into insulting us instead of just the person he's currently in a fight with.

Moti, your criticism of Lithium seems reasonable and it's not worded in an insulting way, but could you please make it clear in what way he's being inconsistent?

Vegito, I trust you'll read everything I wrote to King above, since much of it applies to you too. It would also be nice if you could stop pointing it out whenever cooba, King and moti support each other. Everyone sees it anyway, and it only serves to escalate things when you make it explicit.
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#28 | [q]2013-01-11 13:31
I have restored the discussion in all its glory. Please don't moderate insults in this thread (including stupid images).
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#29 | [q]2013-01-11 15:01
Why am I wasting my time reading this? I dont mean your post gry(i definitely agree with u), but the whole thing? Its not the first time King tries to blame or provoke Vegs publicly, and later he turns things upside down. You do it on purpose and later u pretend to be a victim, sorry i dont "buy it". I even didnt have to read whole log of that situation, to know that. Not to mention fact that this log wasnt even funny.
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#30 | [q]2013-01-11 15:48
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King: Just to make things clear to you, since judging from your overnight replies, you might not have understood completely what I meant when we talked here and on skype:

You can criticize whoever you want to here, but you have to do it in a somewhat civilized manner. It's also nice if you address people clearly.

Oh really? shuttup? Im not going to take crap or bullshit from this guy just becuz veg is his "clanmate".If you want to end a flamewar then dont say anything offesnive. About spamming on forums. Untill your pathetic meddling, i posted only one comment, so dont speak about bullshit about "spamming".

rewrite ->


You want to silence me? I'm not going to stand for this just because Veg is your clanmate, Gry. If you want to end a flamewar, then don't say anything offensive. As far as spamming on the forums is concerned, I only posted on comment before you started meddling, so don't speak nonsense about "spamming".



That is true, its hard to take someone seriously if he's posting insults, i was pretty pissed off and i react easilly.

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Keep in mind however there were a lot of reports of your annoying CTO's exactly when enemy scores.
There were?


yes they were.Dont have the chatlogs however cuz im i have better things to do than save chatlogs and w8 for the moment the stick it in someone's face.


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1. Veg told you to stop airing him in a joking manner (that's how he tells me he intended it), but imo he failed completely at that, making it sound like you always air people and that's why you get any kills at all:
Quote:
[17:04:25] Veg4SpR[CC]: king: airhit production facility 24/7


Which does indeed make it understandable that you should provoke him a bit, though it does border on excessive:

2.
Quote:
[17:04:34] KingCx: okay you seem annoyed
[17:04:36] Veg4SpR[CC]: yse
[17:04:37] KingCx: are you annoyed?
[17:04:39] Rø$éCDF: H
[17:04:39] Rø$éCDF: H
[17:04:40] Rø$éCDF: H
[17:04:40] KingCx: am i bothering you?
[17:04:40] Rø$éCDF: H
[17:04:42] [IRF>JaguáR]: 3
[17:04:43] KingCx: are you getting pwnt?
[17:04:45] KingCx: does it hurt?


No, i understood the joke, and it was not a fail attempt at all. However it was his 10th complaint about my lag airhits, and it was said trough such frustration i was starting to get a bit annoyed annoyed. Thats why i decided to post that, i didnt flame i was merely just "poking him in the head".

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3. Then you guys seem to calm down, Veg making an attempt to clear things up by admitting that his team was losing fairly despite the occasional airhit:

Quote:
[17:09:04] Veg4SpR[CC]: anyway, we are definitely getting pwned
[17:09:06] spazico: nope
[17:09:07] Veg4SpR[CC]: but you have horrible timing
[17:09:12] Veg4SpR[CC]: so we scored 4x somehow
[17:09:13] Rø$éCDF: spazix
[17:09:14] Rø$éCDF: play
[17:09:15] KingCx: its stupid blackeye
[17:09:17] KingCx: he has the flag
[17:09:19] KingCx: he's always low
[17:09:20] Veg4SpR[CC]: thats why I am :@@@
[17:09:22] Veg4SpR[CC]: cause we have 0 control
[17:09:24] KingCx: and we'r never capable of getting C



Term i usually use is Bull**** but i am supposed to be civilized so il say its just not true, That was something nothing else than the fact that it was a fact. We were losing 4-2 or something but we had complete controll over them and veg merely stated it out. it was not "an attempt to clear things out".


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4. You guys score on a cto, Veg gets a bit pissed off, which is how pretty much everyone reacts initially in such a situation, and you can't resist bringing up the old cw business. In doing so, you decide to exaggerate greatly by saying that this is something that happens all the time:

Quote:
[17:12:00] KingCx: funny veg you always seem to cto on scoring opportunities
[17:12:01] Rř$éCDF: soz
[17:12:04] Veg4SpR[CC]: what
[17:12:06] Veg4SpR[CC]: YOU were e1
[17:12:08] Veg4SpR[CC]: we were S
[17:12:10] Veg4SpR[CC]: and I CTO'd
[17:12:11] Veg4SpR[CC]: fuck off
[17:12:13] *** Veg4SpR[CC] left the game


A bit pissed off? calling that a little pissed of is ridiculous. it was not an attempt "becuz i couldnt resist" to flame, i was making a joke. But now i can see why veg reacted so hard. You guys made sucha huge deal out of this instead of just admitting that Veg miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt have overreacted?


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As evident from the log, Veg decided not to make a huge deal about it. He simply left the game instead of properly flaming you. That would most likely have been the end of it, but apparently you hadn't had enough fun yet, so you decided to post the log on the forum, (1) partly because you think it's funny and (2) partly no doubt because you enjoy provoking Veg precisely because it's funny to you when he gets pissed off (see #1).


Not decided to make a big deal out of it? lol
[17:12:00] KingCx: funny veg you always seem to cto on scoring opportunities
[17:12:01] Rř$éCDF: soz
[17:12:04] Veg4SpR[CC]: what
[17:12:06] Veg4SpR[CC]: YOU were e1
[17:12:08] Veg4SpR[CC]: we were S
[17:12:10] Veg4SpR[CC]: and I CTO'd
[17:12:11] Veg4SpR[CC]: fuck off
[17:12:13] *** Veg4SpR[CC] left the game
Btw he also declared war on me in za, but goodjob on not making a big deal.


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but apparently you hadn't had enough fun yet, so you decided to post the log on the forum, (1) partly because you think it's funny


I posted it because it is funny. Veg completely overreacted to something which was clearly a joke (halfjoke since its actually true).


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partly no doubt because you enjoy provoking Veg precisely because it's funny to you when he gets pissed off (see #1)
.

lolwat?

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I've seen you on JJ2, and I know you like to provoke other good players (to your credit, you have the good taste of not trashtalking players who are clearly below your level). Personally I believe it's in good fun, and since I occassionally give you some trash talk too, I try to not make a big deal about it when you do it to me. (Though I would appreciate if you stuck to insulting me when you're actually involved in the game instead of making fun of me when you're not my teammate or opponent, like when I duelled and lost to Rose two days ago.) However, I don't believe that you and Veg are capable of trashtalking each other in good fun, so it would be a good idea for the both of you to try


lolwat??

Vegito, I trust you'll read everything I wrote to King above, since much of it applies to you too. It would also be nice if you could stop pointing it out whenever cooba, King and moti support each other. Everyone sees it anyway, and it only serves to escalate things when you make it explicit.

Cooba said nothing to support me. And you and your puppies came to veg's defense first anyways.

Well anyways, its very funny how u use my "aggressive attitude" to make me look like the bad one here, while its true tho that i get agressive at times.I have no idea what you mean by "he likes to insult good players", nor do i have idea what bs are you talking about you and rose dueling. I simply flame people when they do something stupid not becuz theyr "skilled",but still have no idea what are you talking about. However on this particular matter,the joke is not on me. Veg is the one who completely overreacted to something which was clearly not a provoking attempt, but he's incredibly childish and instead of saying "sorry king, i got pissed of and i was being a dick" he takes out his magical log, takes a good look at it, then squeezes stuff out of it exactly to the way so i could be the bad guy. It was a bit surprising gry was the one to do it this time tho, but i suppose its logical thing to do, becuz it sounds a lot more serious if someone else is trying to speak from his point of view. It is not even nearly a miracle that you and cooba are fighting each other. you both have this annoying thing to not be capable of admitting that what you did was wrong. You're both incredibly childish, like those 9year old kids who keep holding their breaths untill they get what they want. It literally makes me bump my head into walls. Cooba's really cool untill he does something stupid and we have a fight, and im like "eh not again...", and thats the same thought i had yesterday when you ragequitted. I do not find it funny when you get pissed off (well atleast not as much as you all think, but everyone's funny when theyr pissed off). My point is (il say it again) you made a huge deal out of something that was clearly a joke, and tried to make it look like i was only trying to flame. And if you cant see that, then there's nothing further to discuss.


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#31 | [q]2013-01-11 17:57
Some day someone will make a drama series directly inspired by this community.


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#32 | [q]2013-01-11 18:39



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#33 | [q]2013-01-11 21:02
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King:It literally makes me bump my head into walls.

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#34 | [q]2013-01-11 21:04
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there's nothing further to discuss.

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