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     JJNet presents: The JJNet Season 8 CTF Level Making Contest! | [q] 2013-08-08 00:58
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JJNet ladder season 8 is approaching and with it come as always changes to the mappool. This time, however, we are holding a contest where brand new levels can make it into the mappool. The best three maps (supposing there are three that meet our quality-standards) as selected by the admins will be added to the mappool on a temporary basis for the next season. As the season progresses, when a clan reaches 50 points, a vote will be held to determine whether those maps are to be kept in or removed from the mappool.

What are we looking for? Mostly the same things as in most level making contests.

These are the rules :
-We are looking for CTF levels (a contest for the multi-ladder might well be held at another time)
-The level must be playable in 1.23. (If you are going to convert the level from 1.24 afterwards, make sure you pick a tileset that works in 1.23 too.)
-Only new levels will be accepted. Edits of existing levels will not. If a level was started/finished before this contest began, it can however be entered if it was never officially published before.
-Only one entry per person. Collaborations are allowed, but they will count as a whole entry for each collaborator. This is meant to encourage people to focus all their effort on one level, rather than rush many. Quality over quantity.
-As long as the contest stays open, you are allowed to edit/fix/remake your entry as much as you want even after you have submitted it.
-Upload your level to Jazz2Online once you are finished, in order to make it easily available to everyone. Prefix the upload name with [JJnetS8].

Aside from the rules, there are some additional guidelines (if you don’t follow them you’re not likely to get very far):
-The level should be playable in both 2on2 and 3on3.
-The level should have at least decent eyecandy as usual. Most importantly there should be no distracting visual decorations.
-The level should be balanced. You do not need to make the level 100% symmetrical, but try to keep no team significantly advantaged over the other.
-All characters should be playable in the level (Lori too.) Flow differences between characters do not matter, but all characters should be able to reach all objects at least without needing to use tricks like walljumps.
-Try to make the level spacious enough so that there is room for players to dodge bullets for example, but still not too open, as that will increase "lag-dependency", e.g. lots of long linear paths where players usually get "airhit" from afar (especially if the level contains a lot of seekers, thus avoid the use of Seeker Powerup.)
-For the same reason, add some slightly safer areas so that people have somewhere to hide for a second after they get airhits. However, don't let the level become a campfest. Try to design base areas with thought.
-Originality is a nice bonus, but we are not looking for full gimmick-levels. Use of AngelScript is allowed, but again, try to not draw the gameplay too far from classic CTF.

You have exactly two weeks starting now on to finish and upload your entry. The contest will close on August 22.

Uploaded entries:
Stronghold by SJ
Arcane Observatory by Lithium
Technological Problems by DS
Huitzilihuitl by Loon
Trepidation by Plumbe
Red Country CTF by Kyro and Thunder
Los Pollos Hermanos by Ragnarok
Canyon Grove by PurpleJazz
Depths of Void by Foly
Brave Cave by RabidRabb
Pure Skillz by MS

Edit: Deadline extended to September 5
Edit v2: Added a list of uploaded entries, feel free to remove if needed ~Lith
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Foly
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#1 | [q]2013-08-08 10:17
I still have an unfinished ctf lvl I want to finish, so let's hope this is enough motivation to do so emo. Also most levels in the mappool have a full NRG, do you guys think this is a requirement for a good ctf lvl?
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#2 | [q]2013-08-08 12:23
No, but it's a simple option that generally works well. emo
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#3 | [q]2013-08-09 19:05
2 weeks.. grmbl, still have this urge to make something
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#4 | [q]2013-08-09 19:41
Sounds cool, might give JCSing a try for once emo


Nostalgia warning, well, at least if you're one of those ppl...
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#5 | [q]2013-08-10 12:01
I just wanna go on record and say:

1. without posting this on J2O and JCF, and
2. with a 2 weeks deadline

You can't possibly expect any quality entries.


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#6 | [q]2013-08-10 12:13
People who frequent jj.net are also the ones who actually play the game, so the levels they submit are more likely to suit the play styles of the active laddering community, no? I guess that's why the crew chose jj.net as the place to announce it. Not that the old and experienced levelmakers who are sadly inactive shouldn't give it a try, but a contest like this also gives a chance to newer levelmakers who still play actively.


We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
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#7 | [q]2013-08-10 13:31
I have to agree with cooba partially, you could've announced this contest like before the 1st t3 vs Cx CW.
I personally was already working on something, so in my case the deadline in 2 weeks won't affect the quality.
I hope ppl won't make sth in a rush though, because after all, we have to play ladder matches in these lvls.
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#8 | [q]2013-08-10 14:07
Lithium wrote:
People who frequent jj.net are also the ones who actually play the game, so the levels they submit are more likely to suit the play styles of the active laddering community, no?

This is such inane, and borderline offensive bollocks. lava.j2l is not more likely to suit the "play styles of the active laddering community" than anything that can be done by J2O regulars. Apparently boycotting J2O is a trend now, though, let's see how it works out once we disable the Pictures section.


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#9 | [q]2013-08-10 14:41
Because Plumbe, Sean, Loon, etc make levels of the same quality as lava.j2l, and implying that is totally not offensive either? emo

Basing this contest on jj.net is not an evil conspiracy against J2o and JCF. The admins should correct me if I'm wrong, but I can think of the following reasons:

1) it's a clan ladder mappool contest, so it's perfectly logical to have it on the clan ladder site first (as far as I know the admins have also posted it on JCF by now as well)

2) jj.net IS frequently visited by active players and the levelmakers among them, so announcing the contest here ensures that active players get informed of it quite early

3) while most of the people from JCF do visit jj.net, people from jj.net rarely drop by JCF (see 2), therefore the J2o/JCF-based levelmakers would be informed of it anyway while the active player levelmakers from jj.net wouldn't (and I'd say they're very important for this contest)

4) the purpose of the contest is to add something new to the mappool, not just fill it up with three more levels made by people who already have a few in the existing mappool. That doesn't mean the crew wouldn't want experienced J2o/JCF-based levelmakers to compete or that the crew thinks their levels are bad, but a chance should be given to people who visit jj.net and play the game as well to get their new levels in


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We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
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#10 | [q]2013-08-10 15:58
It is grytolle and jj.net announcing the competition, so of course they'd do it on their own site first...

Also you're implying that the only one who can make 'quality entries' are on j2o/JCF and never view this site? While it's true that a lot of famous levelmakers hang around there, that doesn't mean that everything not done by those automatically sucks...

cooba wrote:
This is such inane, and borderline offensive bollocks...

The only bollocks I've read here is you implying that we boycot j2o. We had newsposts for most of your contests, including the latest splashscreen one. Also, the mappool here links the the levelmakers respective upload on j2o. Wasn't j2o boycotting us, because of some illegal download link for jj2? bollocks, indeed.


Nostalgia warning, well, at least if you're one of those ppl...
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#11 | [q]2013-08-10 18:06
All I'm implying is that the deadline is ridiculous, and not promoting the contest on the main community hub (this probably wouldn't have ever happened had I not complained) only makes it even shorter for those who don't frequent jjnet. Unless there was some miracle that I don't know of, none of the good levels currently in the mappool took as short as two weeks to make.

Judging from the two (currently) links to jj.net on the J2O frontpage, no, there's no boycott and there wasn't one.

(Lith, just saying, but I was pretty much the one who pushed Starlit into popularity, tyvm)


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#12 | [q]2013-08-11 00:38
I think lithium needs a wank
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#13 | [q]2013-08-11 00:41
Yeah, this should definitely had been put on the main level making site. We wanted to put it on Rabbit Journal but we never decided who should do it and then I guess we kind of forgot...


(hi moti emo)
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#14 | [q]2013-08-11 00:45
Hi gejole. You alright? Yeah, me too. Im off, take care xox
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#15 | [q]2013-08-11 10:25
How'd you know, moti emo

A little piece of advice for you, though: please stay out of threads you can't understand, okay? No need to trouble your pretty little head with advanced discussions.

For everyone else: The contest has been announced on J2o and JCF as well. Unless you'd like to discuss cooba's other point (I also think the deadline could be a bit longer) or other matters related to the contest, please don't bother posting in this thread anymore.


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We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
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#16 | [q]2013-08-11 12:35
couple of advices for you: dont advice me, get a girlfriend, go play lego
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#17 | [q]2013-08-11 12:45
Lith, fill in this form xD

http://meldpuntoverlast.eu/nationaliteiten/polen/
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#18 | [q]2013-08-11 13:46
Deadline extended to September 5
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#19 | [q]2013-08-11 14:15
Thanks again!

Lithium wrote:
A little piece of advice for you, though: please stay out of threads you can't understand, okay? No need to trouble your pretty little head with advanced discussions.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/patronising


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#20 | [q]2013-08-11 14:36
cooba wrote:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/patronising


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrisy


*insert inane collection of quotes here*
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#21 | [q]2013-08-11 16:30
Stop it already.
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#22 | [q]2013-08-11 18:16
Seeing as the deadline is extended now, the 2 points for this stupid discussion no longer hold. Gry or some other admin please delete/hide/move this flamewar up here.


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#23 | [q]2013-08-12 14:18
5 September is reasonable, goodjob. emo


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#24 | [q]2013-08-18 18:11
Meh, just came home from vacation. I can't promise to create anything sensible this time, but since I've still got holidays I'll just see how far motivation can bring me.
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#25 | [q]2013-08-29 11:49
Would it also be ok if I post a link to the lvl I want to apply to this competition instead of use the [JJnetS8] prefix?
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