When I saw that you've commented I was like "great now I know that at least there is a communication between us" and you saw that I've asked you smth (even if it took you 2 days) but when I read it, I realized I was wrong. So just forget about it, I was the stupid one who agreed to play vs you
Krzy: If you come from above the carrot and shoot the PU with a seeker (the fastest possible way to get bouncers if you want to go to the bottom afterwards), the time interval between getting the PU and going to the spot Hakum is in is below one second. In a less likely scenario, if you use TNT because the PU was not there yet, you can get there *before* you take the PU.
veg 2 sec? on that screen hakum is under a wall, so he cant do it in 2 sec bcs he need to fall down and after go left. do timelimit 1:00 wait to 5 sec and take bnc and fall down to that place like hakum, i needed 3/4 sec for done that. imo spamming bnc have most chance to kill.
I didnt stop to take seekers pu it was in my way, while I was running to red base I fell in that stupid gap so I shooted it and continued my way then come the moment whe Hakum shooted me with his seekers.
My question was with a purpose.If you were close to us you could have observed if he really defending the base with those seeks.But you stopped to take seeks pu. And if you ask me I really didnt pay attention of it because I was almost sure I would've rushed knowing krzy was also away of base and u just died.
lol seek pu were in my way to red base as u know I died before that, so I respawned near to blu base or in blu base... ( if you want details I shooted them I didnt do the uppercut coz as you said I didnt have time). Beside that I dont think the pu thing is very important coz even if he took them (which didnt happen, he was DEFENDING AND SPAMMING SEEKS) he would have atleast shooted some of them.
Krzy: if you should the bnc pu you maybe need 2 seconds max to fall down and get to that place. Besides that it's possible to still change ammo after the game finishes using numbers. It isn't guaranteed he used bnc at all killing Aimane.
No I dont remember, I think I was far from there.WW doesnt matter. It's surprinsing that Hakum isnt defending himself or explaning what heppened from his side of view, Perhaps you can share your opinion here Hakum, I would like to read it and also it concerns you so... Tell me what's wrong in my story : I took seek pu and was about to cap but you were defending there by spamming seeks, I cant lie by telling you how many seekers you were shooting but there was enough to slow me down.
WW for take bnc and fall down u need 4/5 sec, but aimane was killed 4 sec before end, he was shooting only 1 sec? imo its impossible without radar he should spam ammo for secure the kill. or maybe he just camped here? but why he have 50 bnc O_O
In AYB I took seek pus, besides there is only 2 seek pick ups missing, so you think rly instead of defending he jumped to the left side to take only 2 seek pick ups when he had 44?(I dont think so coz someone was defending by spamming seeks, as you see in the chatlog my health was 1) And as you see one of the seek pick ups is falling which means it got hitten by someone Im pretty sure it was Hakum.
Urbs I understand, Hakum is one of your clanmates it's normal if GPW is defending him I actually respect that.
WW: [14:12:46] *** Kryt\GpW/ roasted KrzysieCx [14:12:50] *** AimaneCx roasted Kryt\GpW/ [14:12:50] *** Kryt\GpW/'s killing spree was ended by AimaneCx! [14:13:07] *** [GpW]Hakum roasted KrzysieCx [14:13:08] *** 30 seconds left... [14:13:11] *** Kryt\GpW/ roasted AimaneCx [14:13:11] *** AimaneCx lost the Blue Flag [14:13:14] *** [GpW]Hakum made the score [14:13:14] *** Blue Team scored a point [14:13:14] *** Kryt\GpW/ captured the flag [14:13:18] *** KrzysieCx captured the flag [14:13:22] *** [GpW]Hakum roasted KrzysieCx [14:13:22] *** KrzysieCx lost the Blue Flag [14:13:22] *** AimaneCx captured the flag [14:13:23] *** 15 seconds left... [14:13:33] *** Game Ends in 5... [14:13:34] *** 4... [14:13:34] *** [GpW]Hakum roasted AimaneCx [14:13:34] *** AimaneCx lost the Blue Flag [14:13:34] *** Kryt\GpW/ made the score [14:13:34] *** Blue Team scored a point [14:13:35] *** 3... [14:13:35] *** KrzysieCx captured the flag [14:13:36] *** 2... [14:13:37] *** 1... [14:13:38] *** Blue Team wins [14:13:38] Console: Game has been automatically STOPPED
AYB: [14:22:28] *** KrzysieCx roasted [GpW]Hakum [14:22:30] [GpW]Hakum: KOLOL [14:22:32] *** AimaneCx made the score [14:22:32] *** Blue Team scored a point [14:22:36] *** [GpW]Hakum captured the flag [14:22:36] *** [GpW]Hakum roasted AimaneCx [14:22:36] *** KrzysieCx captured the flag [14:22:53] *** [GpW]Hakum roasted AimaneCx [14:23:08] *** KrzysieCx roasted Kryt\GpW/ [14:23:11] *** [GpW]Hakum roasted AimaneCx [14:23:20] *** Kryt\GpW/ roasted KrzysieCx [14:23:20] *** KrzysieCx lost the Red Flag [14:23:22] *** [GpW]Hakum made the score [14:23:22] *** Red Team scored a point [14:23:25] *** Kryt\GpW/ captured the flag [14:23:25] *** AimaneCx captured the flag [14:23:28] *** Kryt\GpW/ roasted AimaneCx [14:23:28] *** AimaneCx lost the Red Flag [14:23:29] [AimaneCx]: 1 [14:23:31] *** Kryt\GpW/ made the score [14:23:31] *** Red Team scored a point [14:23:31] *** Red Team wins [14:23:31] Console: Game has been automatically STOPPED
I left most of the teamchat out. The last minute of WW's chatlog shows Hakum killing someone 4 seconds before the end, however his location doesn't make it impossible he just picked up the bouncer pu and fell down leaving him with 50 bnc's right at the end.
In AYB Hakum didn't kill anyone in ages although he likely defended vs Aimane recapping. Still it was Kryt killing the recapper and again Hakum's location + the seek pick ups which aren't there could mean he just picked up the seek pick ups before the end.
I am not all for giving him the benefit of the doubt - but I don't think you can ban someone again over screenshots that aren't entirely obvious cheating either.
I agree with Gry, if anyone is stupid enough to cheat again its Hakum. Everyone knows he cheats and he still keeps doing it every time again. It has always been like this and its time that people stop giving him another chance. Even when CDF recruits some suspicious people 2 or 3 times we learn from it and wont let them in another time.
From what I understand when Kryt said that he is used to being right, he actually meant (not sure, but that's how I interpreted it because of the last part of the sentence) that he is used to doing the right thing.
And he does the right thing because he is a sportsman. I'm pretty sure he didn't mean to say he's always right.
Most of us in GpW feel the same way tbh. If you prove that he cheats, we will take any punishment that the community and its leaders decide is necessary.
But until proven he is proven guilty, GpW stands behind Hakum, knowing full well what that means for our reputation and our points.
And King, we did put some "worthy stuff" on that bet, we put the reputation of the clan on it. But that's because we actually put our money where our mouth is.
I dont think so Veg, coz the last score was a rush and what you do when u're on base and your teammate is rushing? you spam seeks (in this case). And the possibilties that Hakum took those 4 seeks are very low.
Just to kryt: It's not a question of losing or winning but in this game there are some rules, those rules are made to be respected and using unlimited ammo is against the rules. ""I don't want to insult anyone but still I don't understand why he would use unlimited ammo this match against a team which isnt so strong as we faced some ladders before""
I don't want to insult anyone but still I don't understand why he would use unlimited ammo this match against a team which isnt so strong as we faced some ladders before and the screens proved clearly he didnt use unlimited ammo.Still it can't be proved if he used or not in this ladder . Im used to be right because I practice sport so I don't defend him if you guys say there's a suspicion.If there are any more doubts about this ladder you can delete it.Also Im sick that jj2 community found another thing to talk about years. I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR .It can't be proved so don't come with smart minds. If an admin like gry or sm1else with same power decide to delete the ladder ,or ban hakum forver just do it.Im tired to listen king's ironics or polish spamming .k thx .