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Summary
flag Gurus of Proactive Warfare vs CodeX flag
Type:Ladder
Referee:———
Player amount:2on2
Date:2013-05-19 14:25
Score:17:3
Score details:Wicked Wood -> 7:1, , Ayb -> 10:2
Demos:---
Description
[GpW] picked Wicked Wood
CX picked Ayb

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i:m
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2013-05-23 02:18 
przyznales sie chakóm nie klam.,.,,..,
i:m
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2013-05-23 02:18 
HAHAhaHAaah emo emo emo emo BAHAHA POZEJOM CI OTPOWEIDZIAL XDDDDDDDD
Amenokoyune
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2013-05-22 19:13 
But tell me what I have to say?
aimane
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2013-05-22 19:01 
When I saw that you've commented I was like "great now I know that at least there is a communication between us" and you saw that I've asked you smth (even if it took you 2 days) but when I read it, I realized I was wrong. So just forget about it, I was the stupid one who agreed to play vs you
Amenokoyune
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2013-05-22 17:24 

Deleted: 2013-05-22 18:07 by Amenokoyune
Amenokoyune
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2013-05-22 17:23 
You bring the light, I bring the drama,
You make it right, I make it harder,
But you understand it's in my nature,
it's who I am,
I bring the drama
MasterSven
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2013-05-21 19:20 
I wasn't correcting anyone, I was just feeding the discussion.
SirEmentaler
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2013-05-21 19:14 
Yes. Veg mentioned shooting though (he said "should" but he meant "shoot"­), so I'm only correcting facts in that field (because "somebody is *wrong* on the Internet"­).

Edited: 2013-05-21 19:16 by SirEmentaler
Foly
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2013-05-21 17:58 
emo

Ofcourse it would be possible to create anti-unlimited ammo stuff but thats no fun to do.
MasterSven
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2013-05-21 17:06 
Shooting a powerup often results in having less than 50 ammo though.
SirEmentaler
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2013-05-21 16:27 
Krzy: If you come from above the carrot and shoot the PU with a seeker (the fastest possible way to get bouncers if you want to go to the bottom afterwards), the time interval between getting the PU and going to the spot Hakum is in is below one second. In a less likely scenario, if you use TNT because the PU was not there yet, you can get there *before* you take the PU.

Edited: 2013-05-21 16:28 by SirEmentaler
Krzysiek
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2013-05-21 16:12 
veg 2 sec? on that screen hakum is under a wall, so he cant do it in 2 sec bcs he need to fall down and after go left. do timelimit 1:00 wait to 5 sec and take bnc and fall down to that place like hakum, i needed 3/4 sec for done that. imo spamming bnc have most chance to kill.
aimane
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2013-05-20 23:18 
I didnt stop to take seekers pu it was in my way, while I was running to red base I fell in that stupid gap so I shooted it and continued my way then come the moment whe Hakum shooted me with his seekers.
Krytical
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2013-05-20 22:58 
My question was with a purpose.If you were close to us you could have observed if he really defending the base with those seeks.But you stopped to take seeks pu. And if you ask me I really didnt pay attention of it because I was almost sure I would've rushed knowing krzy was also away of base and u just died.
aimane
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2013-05-20 22:37 
lol seek pu were in my way to red base as u know I died before that, so I respawned near to blu base or in blu base... ( if you want details I shooted them I didnt do the uppercut coz as you said I didnt have time). Beside that I dont think the pu thing is very important coz even if he took them (which didnt happen, he was DEFENDING AND SPAMMING SEEKS) he would have atleast shooted some of them.

EDIT: Hope u're gonna post smth Hakum.

Edited: 2013-05-20 23:07 by aimane
Krytical
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2013-05-20 21:37 
A simple question. Why would you take seekers pu instead of trying to capture how faster you can to prevent another rush from us?
Vegito
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2013-05-20 21:13 
Krzy: if you should the bnc pu you maybe need 2 seconds max to fall down and get to that place. Besides that it's possible to still change ammo after the game finishes using numbers. It isn't guaranteed he used bnc at all killing Aimane.
aimane
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2013-05-20 17:26 
No I dont remember, I think I was far from there.WW doesnt matter.
It's surprinsing that Hakum isnt defending himself or explaning what heppened from his side of view, Perhaps you can share your opinion here Hakum, I would like to read it and also it concerns you so...
Tell me what's wrong in my story : I took seek pu and was about to cap but you were defending there by spamming seeks, I cant lie by telling you how many seekers you were shooting but there was enough to slow me down.

Edited: 2013-05-20 18:25 by aimane
Krytical
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2013-05-20 17:12 
aimane do you remember in WW ,there was bouncer pu respawned when he was killing you?
Krzysiek
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2013-05-20 14:59 
WW for take bnc and fall down u need 4/5 sec, but aimane was killed 4 sec before end, he was shooting only 1 sec? imo its impossible without radar he should spam ammo for secure the kill. or maybe he just camped here? but why he have 50 bnc O_O

AYB defending with only 6 seekers? no way.
Iustyn
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2013-05-20 14:33 
having 50 and 50 amos at the end of the rounds in a LADDER would be posibble for any player,but not for hakum.this guy cheated too much,i don't believe in coincidences anymore emo
aimane
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2013-05-20 13:06 
In AYB I took seek pus, besides there is only 2 seek pick ups missing, so you think rly instead of defending he jumped to the left side to take only 2 seek pick ups when he had 44?(I dont think so coz someone was defending by spamming seeks, as you see in the chatlog my health was 1)
And as you see one of the seek pick ups is falling which means it got hitten by someone Im pretty sure it was Hakum.

Urbs I understand, Hakum is one of your clanmates it's normal if GPW is defending him I actually respect that.

Edited: 2013-05-20 14:54 by aimane
Vegito
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2013-05-20 12:37 
WW:
[14:12:46] *** Kryt\GpW/ roasted KrzysieCx
[14:12:50] *** AimaneCx roasted Kryt\GpW/
[14:12:50] *** Kryt\GpW/'s killing spree was ended by AimaneCx!
[14:13:07] *** [GpW]Hakum roasted KrzysieCx
[14:13:08] *** 30 seconds left...
[14:13:11] *** Kryt\GpW/ roasted AimaneCx
[14:13:11] *** AimaneCx lost the Blue Flag
[14:13:14] *** [GpW]Hakum made the score
[14:13:14] *** Blue Team scored a point
[14:13:14] *** Kryt\GpW/ captured the flag
[14:13:18] *** KrzysieCx captured the flag
[14:13:22] *** [GpW]Hakum roasted KrzysieCx
[14:13:22] *** KrzysieCx lost the Blue Flag
[14:13:22] *** AimaneCx captured the flag
[14:13:23] *** 15 seconds left...
[14:13:33] *** Game Ends in 5...
[14:13:34] *** 4...
[14:13:34] *** [GpW]Hakum roasted AimaneCx
[14:13:34] *** AimaneCx lost the Blue Flag
[14:13:34] *** Kryt\GpW/ made the score
[14:13:34] *** Blue Team scored a point
[14:13:35] *** 3...
[14:13:35] *** KrzysieCx captured the flag
[14:13:36] *** 2...
[14:13:37] *** 1...
[14:13:38] *** Blue Team wins
[14:13:38] Console: Game has been automatically STOPPED

AYB:
[14:22:28] *** KrzysieCx roasted [GpW]Hakum
[14:22:30] [GpW]Hakum: KOLOL
[14:22:32] *** AimaneCx made the score
[14:22:32] *** Blue Team scored a point
[14:22:36] *** [GpW]Hakum captured the flag
[14:22:36] *** [GpW]Hakum roasted AimaneCx
[14:22:36] *** KrzysieCx captured the flag
[14:22:53] *** [GpW]Hakum roasted AimaneCx
[14:23:08] *** KrzysieCx roasted Kryt\GpW/
[14:23:11] *** [GpW]Hakum roasted AimaneCx
[14:23:20] *** Kryt\GpW/ roasted KrzysieCx
[14:23:20] *** KrzysieCx lost the Red Flag
[14:23:22] *** [GpW]Hakum made the score
[14:23:22] *** Red Team scored a point
[14:23:25] *** Kryt\GpW/ captured the flag
[14:23:25] *** AimaneCx captured the flag
[14:23:28] *** Kryt\GpW/ roasted AimaneCx
[14:23:28] *** AimaneCx lost the Red Flag
[14:23:29] [AimaneCx]: 1
[14:23:31] *** Kryt\GpW/ made the score
[14:23:31] *** Red Team scored a point
[14:23:31] *** Red Team wins
[14:23:31] Console: Game has been automatically STOPPED

I left most of the teamchat out. The last minute of WW's chatlog shows Hakum killing someone 4 seconds before the end, however his location doesn't make it impossible he just picked up the bouncer pu and fell down leaving him with 50 bnc's right at the end.

In AYB Hakum didn't kill anyone in ages although he likely defended vs Aimane recapping. Still it was Kryt killing the recapper and again Hakum's location + the seek pick ups which aren't there could mean he just picked up the seek pick ups before the end.

I am not all for giving him the benefit of the doubt - but I don't think you can ban someone again over screenshots that aren't entirely obvious cheating either.
MasterSven
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2013-05-20 09:37 
I agree with Gry, if anyone is stupid enough to cheat again its Hakum. Everyone knows he cheats and he still keeps doing it every time again. It has always been like this and its time that people stop giving him another chance. Even when CDF recruits some suspicious people 2 or 3 times we learn from it and wont let them in another time.
[GpW]Urbs
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2013-05-20 09:24 
From what I understand when Kryt said that he is used to being right, he actually meant (not sure, but that's how I interpreted it because of the last part of the sentence) that he is used to doing the right thing.

And he does the right thing because he is a sportsman. I'm pretty sure he didn't mean to say he's always right.

Most of us in GpW feel the same way tbh. If you prove that he cheats, we will take any punishment that the community and its leaders decide is necessary.

But until proven he is proven guilty, GpW stands behind Hakum, knowing full well what that means for our reputation and our points.


And King, we did put some "worthy stuff" on that bet, we put the reputation of the clan on it. But that's because we actually put our money where our mouth is.




Edited: 2013-05-20 09:28 by [GpW]Urbs
aimane
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2013-05-19 23:33 
I see, well just in your 1st comment it wasnt obvious.
Krytical
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2013-05-19 23:24 
I don't defend him because I don't have the certainty he didn't cheat.

My problem here isn't about if cheated or not.I just don't want this to move to forum and be started a new drama thing.

Edited: 2013-05-19 23:28 by Krytical
aimane
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2013-05-19 23:17 
""Im used to be right because I practice sport so I don't defend him""

Sure kryt I'm sorry.

Edited: 2013-05-19 23:24 by aimane
Krytical
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2013-05-19 23:16 
I dont wanna reply you again because you didn't understand anything of my comment.
aimane
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2013-05-19 23:10 
I'm sorry but you have no sense of logic if u dont find the screens suspicious
Ragnarok
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2013-05-19 23:08 
You mean two seeks right?
Amenokoyune
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2013-05-19 23:07 

Deleted: 2013-05-19 23:10 by Amenokoyune
Krytical
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2013-05-19 22:58 
Yeah and please read my whole comment.

or read it carefully.

Edited: 2013-05-19 22:59 by Krytical
aimane
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2013-05-19 22:45 
I dont think so Veg, coz the last score was a rush and what you do when u're on base and your teammate is rushing? you spam seeks (in this case). And the possibilties that Hakum took those 4 seeks are very low.

Just to kryt: It's not a question of losing or winning but in this game there are some rules, those rules are made to be respected and using unlimited ammo is against the rules.
""I don't want to insult anyone but still I don't understand why he would use unlimited ammo this match against a team which isnt so strong as we faced some ladders before""

Edited: 2013-05-19 23:02 by aimane
Krytical
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2013-05-19 22:38 
I don't want to insult anyone but still I don't understand why he would use unlimited ammo this match against a team which isnt so strong as we faced some ladders before and the screens proved clearly he didnt use unlimited ammo.Still it can't be proved if he used or not in this ladder . Im used to be right because I practice sport so I don't defend him if you guys say there's a suspicion.If there are any more doubts about this ladder you can delete it.Also Im sick that jj2 community found another thing to talk about years. I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR .It can't be proved so don't come with smart minds. If an admin like gry or sm1else with same power decide to delete the ladder ,or ban hakum forver just do it.Im tired to listen king's ironics or polish spamming .k thx .

Edited: 2013-05-19 22:45 by Krytical
Vegito
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2013-05-19 22:31 
There is the possibililty he just got the seek pick ups (4 of them are gone). Still, last time he did exactly the same however they were even more obvious then.
aimane
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2013-05-19 22:01 
lol Reni, mby he's stupid. (I absolutely dont mean to insult Hakum or smth)
Imo your argument is invalid.
Krzysiek
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2013-05-19 21:58 
bcs he think we are stupid and we will not see 50 ammo, on ayb kryt scored a last point, hakum should def/kill enemy but he still have 50 ammo. defending/kiling without ammo?

Edited: 2013-05-19 21:59 by Krzysiek
Lithium
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2013-05-19 21:32 
Because he did that already emo
Reni
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2013-05-19 21:19 
yes, its suspicious gry... fine, lets say he used unlimited ammo; then why the hell would he put those screenshots online so everybody can see them? - thats idiotic
[GpW]Urbs
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2013-05-19 21:08 
lol, damn hakum, nice ammo preservation!

uhm, he can't cheat, he's ruru's son!!!><

Right hakum?><
Grytolle
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2013-05-19 20:26 
Hakum, why on earth wouldn't you use those powerups if you're 1h? You have to spam them all fast, just in case you die.

Very suspicious :c


Reni: he was stupid enough last time xD
Krzysiek
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2013-05-19 19:42 
im not sure reni emo
King
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2013-05-19 19:36 
well i hope you didnt place some worthy stuff on that bet then Reni.
aimane
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2013-05-19 18:39 
Sure! in Hakum we trust emo
Reni
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2013-05-19 18:17 
ups deleted my comment by accident emo
anyway, just wanted to say hakum wouldnt be so stupid to start cheating again... Im sure of it
Ragnarok
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2013-05-19 18:16 

Deleted: 2013-05-19 18:16 by Ragnarok
Reni
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2013-05-19 18:13 

Deleted: 2013-05-19 18:15 by Reni
aimane
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2013-05-19 17:58 
In Hakum we trust gg emo
MasterSven
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2013-05-19 17:02 
Explain me weapon plz emo
Amenokoyune
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2013-05-19 16:43 
Mow dalej z checia poslucham.
emo
A po drugie jakbys nie widzial, ja sie nigdzie nie tlumacze emo

Edited: 2013-05-19 16:44 by Amenokoyune
Krzysiek
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2013-05-19 16:37 
tlumaczy sie ten co uzywa emo
Amenokoyune
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2013-05-19 16:29 

Deleted: 2013-05-19 16:29 by Amenokoyune
Amenokoyune
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2013-05-19 16:26 
When I have 20 ammo or blaster it's unlimited ammo too?
I don't want explain every weapon.

Edited: 2013-05-19 16:30 by Amenokoyune
Krzysiek
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2013-05-19 15:40 
http://www.jazzjackrabbit.net/index.php?league=1&season=1&op=descr&id=2987

emo
Krzysiek
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2013-05-19 15:38 
nowy rodzaj unlimited ammo emo
aimane
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2013-05-19 15:02 
ye wasnt my day I screwd it up sorry, sadly they didnt want to rematch vs moti and kris.
Intersting 50 seeks in ayb, I remember hakum spamming seeks last score.

Edited: 2013-05-19 15:21 by aimane
i:m
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2013-05-19 14:51 
50 50 nie szczelalem emo
[GpW]Urbs
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2013-05-19 14:48 
nice pwn you 2 nubs emo

I should have played it would have been 20-3 emo

Edited: 2013-05-19 14:50 by [GpW]Urbs
Amenokoyune
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2013-05-19 14:39 
It was too easy.
GG.
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