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Match: CC vs CX
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Summary
flag CraccoClan vs CodeX flag
Type:Ladder
Referee:flag Jelly Jam
Player amount:3v3
Date:2018-08-28 20:00
Score:5:24
Score details:Superconductor -> 1:6, , Superconductor -> 2:6, , BBLair -> 0:9, , BBLair -> 2:3
Demos:JJ2TV
Description
Season 12 Final Match!
This was a clanwar.

CC picked BBLair
CX picked Superconductor


[[Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 20:13:49]]
**Current level: "Superconductor CTF" - /home/cd_assets\elmsuper.j2l
**Next level: elmsuper.j2l
**Game Mode: CTF
**Custom Mode: OFF
[20:13:51] >>> Game Start
[20:30:30] ID: 17 IP Address: 41.38.222.131 Name: kyr0�C Team: Red Points: 7 Roasts: 7 FRoasts 2 KRoasts: 1 Deaths: 10 SDs: 0 Caps: 6 Scores: 0 Solos: 0 Drops: 6 KDrops: 2
[20:30:34] ID: 19 IP Address: 41.38.222.131 Name: �nnaCC Team: Red Points: 2 Roasts: 2 FRoasts 1 KRoasts: 0 Deaths: 13 SDs: 0 Caps: 7 Scores: 1 Solos: 0 Drops: 6 KDrops: 1
*** Game End Stats [[Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 20:36:21]] ***
>> Winner: Blue Team
Blue Score: 6
Red Score: 1
ID IP Address Player Name Team Points Roasts FRoasts KRoasts Deaths SDs Caps Scores Solos Drops KDrops
5 84.27.150.9 8c� Red 13 13 3 0 14 0 10 0 0 10 2
7 188.255.249.111 horcx Blue 15 15 9 3 9 0 3 2 1 1 0
8 41.36.132.153 WarrenCx Blue 18 18 9 1 5 0 7 3 0 4 1
9 141.70.45.131 AnubisCC Red 3 3 1 0 5 0 3 0 0 3 0
10 156.212.28.148 AhMoCx Blue 12 12 9 1 12 0 5 1 0 3 0
11 85.145.193.166 VegitoCC Red 1 1 1 0 3 0 3 0 0 2 0
[20:36:32] >>> Mode: CTF
*** Game End Stats [[Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 20:47:17]] ***
>> Winner: Red Team
Blue Score: 2
Red Score: 6
ID IP Address Player Name Team Points Roasts FRoasts KRoasts Deaths SDs Caps Scores Solos Drops KDrops
5 84.27.150.9 8c� Blue 8 8 3 0 11 0 8 0 0 7 3
7 188.255.249.111 horcx Red 11 11 5 1 10 0 8 2 0 6 1
8 41.36.132.153 WarrenCx Red 14 14 7 1 6 0 7 3 0 3 1
9 141.70.45.131 AnubisCC Blue 13 13 8 1 15 0 9 1 0 8 2
10 156.212.28.148 AhMoCx Red 15 15 13 4 11 0 5 1 0 4 0
11 85.145.193.166 VegitoCC Blue 6 6 2 1 14 0 11 1 0 10 1
[20:47:49] >>> Game End

[[Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 21:10:05]]
**Current level: "Fauztinville V2" - /home/cd_assets\tdctf06.j2l
**Next level:
**Game Mode: CTF
**Custom Mode: OFF
[21:10:06] >>> Game Start
*** Game End Stats [[Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 21:27:40]] ***
>> Winner: Red Team
Blue Score: 2
Red Score: 3
ID IP Address Player Name Team Points Roasts FRoasts KRoasts Deaths SDs Caps Scores Solos Drops KDrops
3 197.53.139.48 WarrenCx Blue 12 12 7 1 9 0 5 1 0 4 2
4 85.145.193.166 VegitoCC Red 12 12 7 2 9 0 6 1 1 5 1
5 82.181.37.140 -t3>SJ Red 8 8 4 0 9 0 5 1 0 3 0
6 80.4.130.47 rgcx Blue 10 10 3 1 9 0 6 0 0 6 0
7 188.255.249.108 cXor Blue 10 10 2 0 7 0 6 1 0 4 1
8 156.213.121.52 AhMoCx Red 5 5 3 1 14 0 5 1 0 4 1
[21:37:05] >>> Game End

[[Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 21:37:06]]
**Current level: "Painted Garden" - /home/cd_assets\ezpaint.j2l
**Next level: ezpaint
**Game Mode: CTF
**Custom Mode: OFF
[21:37:08] >>> Game Start
[21:44:33] ID: 8 IP Address: 156.213.121.52 Name: AhMoCx Team: Red Points: 1 Roasts: 1 FRoasts 0 KRoasts: 0 Deaths: 4 SDs: 0 Caps: 2 Scores: 0 Solos: 0 Drops: 2 KDrops: 1
*** Game End Stats [[Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 21:52:44]] ***
>> Winner: Blue Team
Blue Score: 4
Red Score: 1
ID IP Address Player Name Team Points Roasts FRoasts KRoasts Deaths SDs Caps Scores Solos Drops KDrops
5 82.181.37.140 -t3>SJ Red 9 9 2 1 11 0 5 0 0 5 0
6 80.4.130.47 rgcx Blue 14 14 6 0 8 0 5 1 0 3 0
7 188.255.249.108 cXor Blue 12 12 7 2 4 0 5 3 1 2 1
8 156.213.121.52 AhMoCx Red 6 6 4 0 10 0 5 1 0 4 0
9 79.175.97.225 Jelly[GpW]Jam Red 7 7 3 0 11 0 7 0 0 7 3
12 213.205.194.96 -t3>PJ Blue 10 10 5 2 11 0 4 0 0 4 0
[22:08:18] >>> Game End

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Comments
Kyro
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2018-09-10 03:59 
Done!
Jelly Jam
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2018-09-10 00:13 
On the other hand the playlogs are still missing and the ref isn't even listed emo

Edited: 2018-09-10 00:13 by Jelly Jam
Vivando
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2018-09-10 00:12 
Thx! Fixed!
cooba
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2018-09-09 13:46 
Psst, this is marked as a ladder and not as a clanwar. emo
Krzysiek
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2018-08-30 19:09 
that's the spirit.
Jelly Jam
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2018-08-30 01:55 
I changed my way of looking at CX's case.

CX breaking up is all a bunch of bullshat. If someone truly wants to beat them, they can do it.

There's always going to be a winner and a loser, if you lost today then today just wasn't your day, but that's okay. Don't give up!

In fact, I saw something good in all 3 clanwars GpW lost this season, because when you win a game, you go back and look at the things you've done right, but when you lose a game, you go back and look at the things you've done wrong. Then later you work on the things you've done wrong and you improve, you evolve, you become a better player. So, in a way, by losing - you're winning!

I changed my way of looking at ladders. I will play against CX as much as I can because at this point it doesn't matter what clan freezes the ladder, as long as we reach the playoffs. This is good, because the more you play against a better team, the better you get every second. And the stronger the opponent, the better, because you're only getting yourself to their level faster!

So everyone who thinks CX is overpowered, they are not. They are not immortals, they are not gods. Quit whining and go play some JJ2. emo
Vegito
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2018-08-29 20:01 
And the luck Rag and Hor had at some points was incredible xD emo
I should at least warm up before a match instead of jumping in when starting the PC, that'll be better seeing the last bblair round and the noob mistakes in Super xd

Getting good won't happen though lel
And damn git is annoying on Linux servers, permissions

Edited: 2018-08-29 20:04 by Vegito
Vivando
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2018-08-29 19:47 
$ git gud
git: 'gud' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.

Did you mean this?
gui

emo

Edited: 2018-08-29 19:47 by Vivando
King
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2018-08-29 19:41 
"Last time I really actively trained was in 2011. "

Homie, we never trained emo
We just played games. That's how you git gud son.
Vegito
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2018-08-29 19:20 
As I noticed in super, I missed 2 clear scores because I ****ed up movement xD. I fell on the platform above blue base instead of falling on the blue base emo
Krzysiek
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2018-08-29 18:51 
magic of friendship caused this. We all are like a big family with daddy rag and that make us capable to beat anyone.

loved this part ---> you are jj2's competitive scene at the moment.

Edited: 2018-08-29 18:56 by Krzysiek
cooba
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2018-08-29 18:22 
Congratulations to CX, you melon farmers.

I dunno what this "split up CX" business is, but all defectors are welcome in either [si] or my brand new clan, FT (F*ck Trump). emo
Vivando
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2018-08-29 18:03 
On the other hand many other clans have had their dominant times as well, like CC and -t3>. But no clan ever got their dominance by simply stealing all the best players, they just grew into it. That's what obviously happened with CX too.

Telling CX to divide and share some power, well, isn't probably the right thing to do and one can't simply tell players which clan to join, they will go where they want to. But at least the players in CX can think about this:

How many clans do you think are going to have the balls to play ladder matches against the current CX next season (besides t3 ofc)? emo
Vegito
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2018-08-29 17:55 
I'm not pretending that at all, I'm saying the fact you've got 80% of the strongest players isn't going to change any time soon with current activity levels xD.
Maybe playing an hour per week works for you guys (and it does, it shows) but for me it doesn't. Last time I really actively trained was in 2011. In fact, playing against strong teams once in a while means I get my ass handed to me once in a while, nothing more xD. That also showed the few times I came back to jj2 since 2011.

So yea, I simply give up then. In the end all I'm saying is that I don't think the current situation is any good for jj2 and not very likely to change either because simply put: you don't have a challenge this way and you aren't likely to get any either because you are jj2's competitive scene at the moment.

Edited: 2018-08-29 18:01 by Vegito
King
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2018-08-29 15:31 
That's not what king said though. King didn't say "play a lot", he just said "do something about it".

Don't pretend like we've been playing an unhealthy amount of hours to beat people in this season, we've been the most inactive clan infact. And even then, when we got active, some of us still didn't play all that much. We just played every once in awhile. You don't even need that much training to beat us at all, nothing we do is actually all that impressive, we just sharpened our movements and reflexes a bit better than most. Nothing you couldn't win against if you spend about an hour a week minimum practicing some movement and the like. But people just get depressed and immediately give up. You can't advance in your gameplay if you're only willing to play against worse teams cause you hate losing.

Shortly put, Hordy's right in saying you should fight stronger teams. You'll probably get your ass handed to you a couple times, but it's something we all went through. You gry and faw had your own time when you were untouchable, but GpW still formed a team and tried to beat you.
Vegito
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2018-08-29 14:21 
Yea, but you're aware you're using the same reason as King now ("play together a lot" - and I think I can safely speak for -t3 and CC we're not very likely to use the 3h of free time we have per day on jj2. Especially if you know coming back/train jj2 is going to take many times of 3h of playing. I can hardly motivate myself to play for an hour after work emo

So my point remains I think only GpW would have a chance to beat Cx as they had the activity required to perform well and above all improve.

It however is also true CC is using its chances to play versus strong teams, but these chances are few as we simply are not here enough anymore.. We know how to create a strong warteam obviously, we've done it ourselves in the past, too. Look at the last season however, we barely played 20 matches emo . That's our problem I guess and I'm not sure if Cx splitting up would help that either.

Anyway, who can I send the playlogs too? I can get them.

Edited: 2018-08-29 14:34 by Vegito
HordY
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2018-08-29 14:01 
I can understand your lack of motivation Veg, it's no fun to play a game which you know you'll probably lose even before it started. On the other hand, this could also be an indication for others to be more active and competitive in the future. It is true that we're overpowered but this didn't happen overnight. Ever since creating Cx we have worked slowly and diligently building our empire all the way to the top. Also, give your clan mates a chance to play against stronger players, play together a lot because that is how you create a bond and instinct for the game itself. And IMO, that is how you improve and become a great player. Just look at Ahmo, guy hasn't been playing jj2 for a few years and he did a splendid job here and surely this game will regain his confidence. That's how you create your war team, by trusting your players and giving them a chance to be a part of the squad.

I felt exceptionally confident playing this game especially on bblair and I must admit that I was a little disappointed after server crushed and rather lost interest in playing the last round. Not that i cared for stats that much but still, this was the first time in my jj2 career that I've reached 17-0 and I was really looking forward for that Godlike mode. I'm sure it was an accident and it's way more cooler to ctr+c than to /lrs like slayer's style anyway XD. Great game guys, I'm looking forward to next season. Expect some novelties from Cx, I'm sure you guys will enjoy it. Until then, cheers. Hor signing off. emo
Vegito
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2018-08-29 10:39 
Should enable antiradar by default and #****alllagcomplaints xD

The clanwar was very messy.. Anna and Kyro lagged off in round 1 and we were too untrained as a team to stand a chance. Then bblair caused issues, some players couldn't join after cycling.
I wanted to enable antiradar at 6-0 during round 3, but accidentally pressed ctrl c when I made a typo ("backspace? what is that"emo.
ctrl c at the server equals closing the server, I forgot emo

It was fun to play with Loon and Anubis still, but Cx is far too strong now...
And @King: Telling other clans to do something about it isn't gonna work.
I think I can safely say CC and -t3's players/warteam are simply too busy with work and aren't able to be really active. So if you meet a clan that's far stronger than you, it is in fact rather demotivating knowing you can't do anything about it, so it only makes me want to play jj2 less. GpW is the only clan capable of training enough to beat Cx - but remember it takes most players years of training to become strong.

Ah, and what was the thing about antiradar?
I am not accusing anyone of using radar, but I don't feel well playing without it. IMO enabling antiradar makes jj2 a lot more fair - without it I keep thinking "what if?" knowing what's possible. Maybe it is lame to say or coincidence, but I still think it's funny to see whenever CD's enable antiradar we (CC) score a lot better - that's the case in the last round vs Cx, but also the last 2 rounds vs GpW.

Edited: 2018-08-29 13:34 by Vegito
Toni
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2018-08-29 02:56 
... what?! 24:5? emo
King
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2018-08-28 22:54 
Ref bias on the first one, commentator bias on the second one ;l. Take notes people, this how you win the season! We played dirty af, but atleast we didn't crash the server to hide the logs!

PS, this is 100% a joke, don't take this seriously. GG all, nice last bblair round CC!
Krzysiek
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2018-08-28 17:31 
i agree, one of the biggest factor of t3 lose was that I reffed that match emo Rag forced me to do that emo
Vivando
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2018-08-27 21:03 
Sorry Kris, no ref bias this time. emo I'll let JellyJam ref for a change. emo
Jelly Jam
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2018-08-26 23:40 
If no one else is available to ref this I can, but I'm willing to step aside if in the meantime someone with more experience volunteers.

Edited: 2018-08-26 23:54 by Jelly Jam
Krzysiek
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2018-08-26 17:49 
could ref if u allow me
Vivando
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2018-08-23 19:29 
Scheduled on August 28th.

As I saw how this game was going down the same way as the latest CC vs. GpW-clanwar, I had no choice but to act sooner. emo These two games have been blocking the new season from starting long enough already.

Once again if you are able to find a better schedule to play sooner, that's fine, but otherwise this is the final date and time. The clans will have to play with whatever teams they can muster!

I'm available for Broadcasting myself at this time, but I'm looking for referee/experts!
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