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By: Slaz, in: What JJ2 level title best describes your sex life?JJ2 related 2019-08-20 14:13
ELEKTREK PYRAMID :dizzy:
By: PurpleJazz, in: What JJ2 level title best describes your sex life?JJ2 related 2019-08-19 06:44
15 Second Rush
By: Laro24, in: What JJ2 level title best describes your sex life?JJ2 related 2019-08-10 19:15
Nuclear Afterblast :whistling:
By: Plumbe, in: What JJ2 level title best describes your sex life?JJ2 related 2019-08-10 16:50
Wicked Wood :flex:
By: [GpW]Urbs, in: What JJ2 level title best describes your sex life?JJ2 related 2019-08-10 15:59
Jungles Edge :D
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By: Slaz, in: What JJ2 level title best describes your sex life?JJ2 related 2019-08-20 14:13
ELEKTREK PYRAMID emo
By: PurpleJazz, in: What JJ2 level title best describes your sex life?JJ2 related 2019-08-19 06:44
15 Second Rush
By: Laro24, in: What JJ2 level title best describes your sex life?JJ2 related 2019-08-10 19:15
Nuclear Afterblast emo
By: Plumbe, in: What JJ2 level title best describes your sex life?JJ2 related 2019-08-10 16:50
Wicked Wood emo
By: [GpW]Urbs, in: What JJ2 level title best describes your sex life?JJ2 related 2019-08-10 15:59
Jungles Edge emo
By: i:m, in: What JJ2 level title best describes your sex life?JJ2 related 2019-08-10 03:59
CREDITS
By: ThunDer, in: What JJ2 level title best describes your sex life?JJ2 related 2019-08-10 02:46
Facing Worlds
By: Ragnarok, in: What JJ2 level title best describes your sex life?JJ2 related 2019-08-09 18:30
Drought

emo
By: MasterSven, in: What JJ2 level title best describes your sex life?JJ2 related 2019-08-09 15:33
There can be only one: Magma P*nis Despair. emo
By: Jelly Jam, in: What JJ2 level title best describes your sex life?JJ2 related 2019-08-09 11:49
This level is Untitled
By: SirEmentaler, in: What JJ2 level title best describes your sex life?JJ2 related 2019-08-09 07:50
I'd probably have to go with Enter the Chaos but I aspire to reach Action Basement.
By: Toni, in: Funniest moments!Forum games 2019-08-08 16:21
Meanwhile in Gauntlet:

[16:17:02] Console: >> [CDF]Youssef has logged in (JJ2Player)
[16:17:19] [CDF]Youssef: CL Mean Connecting lost
[16:17:23] *** MS -CDF- roasted #PP!Empive
[16:17:23] #PP!Empive lost the Blue Flag
[16:17:25] MS -CDF-: cto
[16:17:25] *** AhMoCx captured the flag
[16:17:30] 2 minutes left...
[16:17:33] Lynx-CDF-: cl means carrot left
[16:17:38] [CDF]Youssef: LOL
By: ThunDer, in: Carrots and LaddersJJ2 related 2019-08-04 15:44
Imo ditch carrots and use apples instead for better nutrition. emo
By: cooba, in: Carrots and LaddersJJ2 related 2019-08-03 17:17
Tangential to the topic, but I've always thought that Carrot Farm was a totally missed opportunity to try some really radical carrot placement scheme. emo
By: Ragnarok, in: Carrots and LaddersJJ2 related 2019-08-03 15:12
Ok SE, here's what I suggest --

You make that level emo - I will DEFINITELY like to play it. (And TBH I think it could work)...

In addition, there are some other unique carrot schemes not explored... eg. two regular carrots next to eachother like in Sacrifice by prolific JCSer CelL of OLC!
By: SirEmentaler, in: Carrots and LaddersJJ2 related 2019-08-03 04:00
6 regular carrots with 90-second spawn times.
By: Ragnarok, in: All matches page stalls while loadingSite suggestions 2019-08-01 23:06
i'm in full support of this idea
By: Mercuryquake, in: Carrots and LaddersJJ2 related 2019-08-01 20:45
It depends on several other aspects of the level.

Such as, in a very large CTF map, having only 1 carrot would greatly affect the balance between teams, depending on its placement; and also whether or not taking carrot would be a lower or higher priority if it's so inconvenient to get to, in an extremely big map.

Having only 1 campable carrot in an already-campy level, might make the level just an overall campfest. So imagine a level with maybe 2 campy bases, a campy powerup, and then add 3 extra-campy carrots in separate areas. That sort of level could just be a joke because of having too many camping spots.

Then considering the idea you can have carrots affecting the balance between teams. Look at the level City of the Sn00ze; you have 1 full carrot in between the bases, more or less in the central area. The carrot is spaced about evenly between both red and blue bases. Then there are also 2 small carrots, on the edges of the level, one small carrot is beyond each base. What if the blue base had a small carrot, but red base didn't? What if one of the bases had an additional full carrot and the other still hust had a small carrot? It would create an imbalance between the red and blue bases.

Also, it's easier to see why having lots of carrots in a smaller map also doesn't make sense. Picture if Mulch had 4 full carrots, maybe on the ledges above bases, and in the dugouts below the bases. The gameplay of Mulch would become drastically altered.

For an exemplary case study, we could assess the carrots of Trigelateral. A full carrot and a small carrot are each in separate vertically oriented tubes within a centrally located large block, with the tubes leading out to oneways at the top of the block. The platform atop the oneways of the block is basically campable, so you can be punished for taking a carrot, and revert back to low health as soon as you escape the tube. Also, the carrots can be shot down from the tubes by electroblaster... and then taken from below the entrances of the tubes. So, I think that makes taking carrots in Trig alot more risky, depending on the situation -- with 1 health, taking the small carrot to get 2 health, can lead to dying where an enemy is camping above the tube exitways while spamming with powered RF. Taking full carrot with 2 health to get to 3 health can lead to you getting 1 health in a similar scenario, and can result in an easier kill for the enemy. Alternatively, there's the option to shoot the carrot down with EB, and take the carrot from below when it falls; that just also leaves you vulnerable whilst in the process of shooting carrot down.

In an imaginary unknown map, having carrots that are in clear view to the player, instead of being hidden in a secret area, makes the level alot more accessible for new players and faster to learn the map. Noone wants to play a CTF duel or teamgame in a level they are seeing for the first time, and only after the game ended to find out there was a carrot in some obscure location that was too difficult to find, or that might as well have been locked behind a coded entry lock or gate.

Also it depends on the number of players in that particular game. Playing a duel in a level with 3 full carrots just sounds excessively boring, depending on spawntimes; with quicker spawntimes for all 3 carrots, both duelists could just get full health whenever they want, and prevent any scoring whatsoever, and be practically unkillable. This kind of reminds me of dueling in BBCITY, although carrot spawntimes there aren't so quick that you can still kill in duels before any carrots will respawn, or in the space that enemy needs to traverse after taking a carrot and going to the next.
By: Mercuryquake, in: All matches page stalls while loadingSite suggestions 2019-08-01 19:37
Trying to load the page for All Matches just stalls during loading and never fully loads.

I would suggest reducing the amount of ladders displayed to a finite number per page.

Maybe creating separate pages for each ladder season would increase efficiency.
By: Mercuryquake, in: Question for Jelly JamAsk Tira 2019-08-01 19:24
Coffee is a drug, actually. Therefore it shouldn't be considered a food at all, rather more like a medicine. However, if you ate whole coffee beans, I guess that as a legume, it would have some vegetabities as well. That being said, beans are technically a type of fruit actually, although, fruit is also a type of vegetable.
By: Jelly Jam, in: Carrots and LaddersJJ2 related 2019-07-28 05:10
I voted for two full energy carrots, and although it is already well receieved by the competetive playerbase, I feel there's not enough levels that use this kind of setup to it's full potential. There are maps like HMK and the Astrolabe that prove it works well and I hope these levels serve as inspiration for designers who want to get their level in the mappool.


On another note, "Carrots and Ladders" sounds like a great name for a board game.
By: Antix, in: Carrots and LaddersJJ2 related 2019-07-28 03:29
Best CTF Party Goodluck proves everything, what a masterpiece.
By: Ragnarok, in: Carrots and LaddersJJ2 related 2019-07-28 02:50
What's your favourite carrot scheme for CTF levels (2v2/3v3)?

emo

(Also feel free to say why)
By: Jelly Jam, in: Question for Jelly JamAsk Tira 2019-07-22 01:56
utter sounds like udder
By: ThunDer, in: Question for Jelly JamAsk Tira 2019-07-20 02:31
I am utterly in agreement with all facts above.
By: Ragnarok, in: Question for Jelly JamAsk Tira 2019-07-18 19:22
I feel that there are several conclusions I have come to from the outcome of this lengthy discussion:

• I should not be supporting Wikipedia with a £2 a year donation. Refusal to acknowledge a coconut as a nut is simply heinous as an act.
• Hyperion is my favourite fruit in JJ2 :3.
• This conversation, whilst insightful, has almost overlooked the key talking point raised by Jelleth Jammus, about Lizard People.
• Lizard people are possibly producing coffee from milking their nuts, and then convincing us that it’s ‘trendy’ and ‘cool’, and making a salary from us drinking their (un)natural produce.

By: SirEmentaler, in: Question for Jelly JamAsk Tira 2019-07-16 04:28
Like I said, these are "conclusions" rather than direct results of research, but I believe I can make a solid case for my statement.

First off, it's important to understand the categories we're talking about. When speaking of "five a day", we mean what is typically referred to as "five portions of fruit and vegetables". The issue with this wording is that whereas "fruit" has a very well-defined, strict botanical meaning, "vegetable" is in fact a purely culinary/cultural category that applies to a wide range of edible parts of plants. This distinction introduces some confusion; many people seem to believe that because e.g. tomato is a fruit, it is not a vegetable - in reality, tomato is both a fruit in botanical terms and a vegetable in culinary terms (which, again, are the only terms the word "vegetable" is meaningful in).

The word "fruit", however, is ambiguous. Like I mentioned, it has a botanical meaning, but it is also occasionally used as a culinary term to describe sweet parts of plants, commonly used in desserts. In this sense, tomato and cucumber are typically not considered fruit, but rhubarb is, despite the edible part of rhubarb being its leaf stalk. When referring to "fruit and vegetables", I would thus argue that we mean fruit in the culinary sense, which includes rhubarb. Otherwise it would seem inconsistent to mix a scientific term with a cultural one.

Now that that's clear, it's important to mention that there are several other categories of plant parts used in cuisine, and among them are nuts. This is another term that has both a botanical and a culinary meaning, but it makes sense to keep using the latter for the sake of consistency. In particular, many types of culinary nuts are actually seeds of their corresponding plants rather than botanical nuts; this includes almonds, Brazil nuts, cashews, peanuts, walnuts, and pistachios. Wikipedia loosely defines nut in this sense as "any large, oily kernel found within a shell and used in food".

As for coffee beans, biologically they are seeds of the coffee plant. They are "large" in the same sense as peanuts or pistachios are, and undoubtedly oily and used in food. The only troublesome part may be that they are not normally found inside a hard shell, to my knowledge. Personally, I consider this a technicality - they are still found inside a plant part, it's just that this surrounding part is soft rather than hard. Happens to the best of us. And if you take into account the travesty that is the coconut, you may be more considerate towards inclusion of the coffee bean (to its credit, even in the culinary sense, Wikipedia refuses to acknowledge coconuts as nuts, but it can't hide the fact it's still right there in the name). Intuitively, coffee beans also possess more traits we associate with nuts than fruit or vegetables.

The only type of beverage I'm aware of that is made from nuts is alternative milk. Most common is almond milk, but other types of nuts are also used to produce vegan milk, such as cashews, hazelnuts, pistachios, or macadamia nuts. It follows that coffee, a beverage made from nuts, is thus a type of nut milk.
By: Ragnarok, in: Question for Jelly JamAsk Tira 2019-07-15 09:18
from where did you cite such information?
By: Jelly Jam, in: Question for Jelly JamAsk Tira 2019-07-13 00:57
teeheehee
you said nut milk
By: SirEmentaler, in: Question for Jelly JamAsk Tira 2019-07-13 00:34
I've done extensive research on this topic and I'd like to inform you of my conclusions.

Coffee beans are not vegetables. They are, in fact, nuts.

Coffee is therefore nut milk.
By: SAMI, in: Question for Jelly JamAsk Tira 2019-07-12 12:53
Lizard people are real.
They feast on humans and leave no trace so that no one believes the existence of lizards.

All hail Mark Zuckerberg, the Cyborg Lizard lord.
By: Ragnarok, in: Question for Jelly JamAsk Tira 2019-07-12 00:04
I watched a Youtube video where the queen of britain opened her mouth...
Except it opened sideways...
Definite lizard-person
By: Jelly Jam, in: Question for Jelly JamAsk Tira 2019-07-11 23:04
Also why would lizard people want you to take five coffees a day?
Yeah, that's right. I may or may not be a guy that believes that people who run countries are evil lizard people who control the world.

But, for legal reasons, that's a joke.
By: Jelly Jam, in: Question for Jelly JamAsk Tira 2019-07-11 22:49
i like your way of thinking ragnarok my dear, i'm going to make this as short as possible











coffe beans, being beans, gets us to a shocking conclusion that we are indeed talking about beans









beans are vegetables









and you know what else is a vegetable








watermelon











watermelon has the word water in it










it obviously means water is a vegetable









and since watermelons and beans are related because they are both vegetables


























= beans are water















= coffee is water













Don't believe me? HERE: I have a perfectly valid .j2ass code to prove it

Code:
if jjOBJ(OBJECT :: BEANS) <=> OBJECT :: WATERLEVEL;
then
void onCoffee()
  jjCoffeePresets = WATER;
return false;
END


























a-HA! you just got ultra nae naed













the syntax of that code is intentionally incorrect and i absolutely know how the language works.












it's supposed to symbolize how coffee beans are not water, thus the theory that coffee = vegetable is incorrect, just like this code is incorrect!!



























that was my final answer all along
















you dumbdumb
















hihihi
jelly out
By: Vivando, in: Question for Jelly JamAsk Tira 2019-07-11 10:09
I volunteer as Jelly Jam's assistant regarding this and answer on his behalf that you can get your 'five' by having Unconventional Coffee 5 times a day as well. Any size will do, 1v1, 2v2, etc.
By: Ragnarok, in: Question for Jelly JamAsk Tira 2019-07-10 23:31
I was thinking...

If coffee is made of beans, does that make it a vegetable, and therefore one of my five a day?

Does the government want me to have 5 coffees a day?
By: Vivando, in: Wall JumpJJ2 related 2019-07-02 21:53
Quote:
Firing rockets at walls or into the air is a waste of taxpayer money and causes significant carbon dioxide emissions.


emo emo emo
By: SirEmentaler, in: Wall JumpJJ2 related 2019-07-02 21:37
Ragnarok wrote:
do elaborate

RF jump is likely an unforeseen consequence of RF blasts. The origin of rocket jumping is usually traced back to Quake, which was released after JJ2 development already began and was still young when JJ2 was released. Many games where rocket jumping was intended, feature secret areas reachable through it; this is not the case in JJ2, so nothing indicates it was known to the developers.

In multiple levels, RF jump allows players to take paths they very likely weren't intended to, e.g. semi, super, EotM, bbswing. There are RF tricks that not everybody can pull off, and for many tricks it's rare that anyone can pull them off consistently (EotM). The exact direction and power of RF recoil depends on the pixel-perfect position of the player and as such it introduces a luck factor into the game.

Many RF jumps can only be executed by Spaz, causing character imbalance. Some can only be executed by Jazz, but there are no RF jumps that can only be executed by Lori. This contributes to widening the gender gap.

Long RF climbs are very unreliable and the button mashing they require shortens keyboard lifespan.

Firing rockets at walls or into the air is a waste of taxpayer money and causes significant carbon dioxide emissions.
By: ThunDer, in: Wall JumpJJ2 related 2019-07-02 20:36
Imo nerf blaster by limiting numbers of shots available down from infinity, encouraging the use of phyiscal means of fighting. emo emo
By: Krzysiek, in: Wall JumpJJ2 related 2019-07-02 15:14
I think CTF is too mainstream. we should change gamemode to treasure
By: Ragnarok, in: Wall JumpJJ2 related 2019-07-01 22:57
do elaborate emo
By: SirEmentaler, in: Wall JumpJJ2 related 2019-07-01 20:25
I think RF jump should be removed.
By: ThunDer, in: Wall JumpJJ2 related 2019-07-01 13:52
your arguments ----> http://i63.tinypic.com/x4otbd.jpg
By: King, in: Wall JumpJJ2 related 2019-07-01 13:07
Your arguments < My arguments.
By: ThunDer, in: Wall JumpJJ2 related 2019-07-01 12:59
Never adjoin the word 'face' with 'poor' EVER. emo You earthlings are not to question the transcendental fineness and delicacy of 'Facing Worlds of the Dimensional Realms'. Sufficient to say that your ill-founded viewpoint isn't remotely close to actuality because in fact most of my impeccable kills were gotten by killing twats failing to walljump. So yes next time never speak blasphemy of the ethereality of that map you SOB. emo
By: King, in: Wall JumpJJ2 related 2019-07-01 12:37
While there might be some "skill" involved, there's definitely a high luck factor involved in a successful walljump. There's no way there'll be a person being able to do it consistently indefinitely. It is a bit of a pixel hunt.

Don't think it should be removed from CTF gameplay though, most people don't really do it anyways, and failing to do a walljump is extremely punishing in CTF. On some maps imo it feels like it actually improves the gameplay of the maps poor quality (face anyone?)
By: Krzysiek, in: Wall JumpJJ2 related 2019-07-01 01:49
yeah remove also that upper gun9 shoot coz it's clearly a bug and only few people can do it properly.

emo emo emo emo emo emo emo

since when walljump is random? I thought everyone knows how to do it, they just lack of training.
By: Jelly Jam, in: Wall JumpJJ2 related 2019-06-30 23:38
What Vegito said: you should be able to enable/disable it. I'm not going to go full into detail as to why walljump should be removed in competetive gameplay, as I think the reasons for that are already fairly obvious, but long story short: it's random and not everyone can pull it off, and it adds an even greater luck factor to the game.

In my opinion, it should be disabled by default when launching the game and let players enable it with the /quirks command. That way people can still use it in tests etc..And to ensure no one uses it in CTF, perhaps a serverside command such as /allowquirks on/off should be implemented as well.
By: Vegito, in: Wall JumpJJ2 related 2019-06-30 22:39
Yes, removing it would kill many tests and speedruns emo
IMO it's enough plus disables it by default and you can enable it yourself.
By: Ragnarok, in: Wall JumpJJ2 related 2019-06-29 12:38
I guess levels nowadays are designed with wall jump in mind too XD