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     discussion about viper | [q] 2011-05-14 14:15
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Viper is really getting better, you should be proud, both of you.


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#1 | [q]2011-05-14 14:40
GG emo
Ty laro emo
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#2 | [q]2011-05-14 15:16
I take it back, Viper is a clanhopper.


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#3 | [q]2011-05-14 15:20
Maybe,but still you gotta care about your members,not just send them to play other games for a JJ2 clan.


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#4 | [q]2011-05-14 15:23
What are you talking about?


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#5 | [q]2011-05-14 15:24
About the current CDF list?




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#6 | [q]2011-05-14 15:27
I don't get your point.


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#7 | [q]2011-05-14 15:31
I think most of the players who left CDF did so because they weren't paid attention,they were bothered by other members or because of many things combined resulting in extreme drama.


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#8 | [q]2011-05-14 15:42
Not really. What is it to you, anyway?


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#9 | [q]2011-05-14 16:01
so what clan did viper join this time?
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#10 | [q]2011-05-14 16:02
Atm, his trying to join GpW.


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#11 | [q]2011-05-14 16:49
I must admit CDF has several issues with its memberlist. Solving them might be actually very difficult due to the size of most JJ2 clans and because the current ladder system promotes large clans.
And large clans don't really allow to care for your members. You're going to care for the members you like. And you're going to ignore the members you dislike... it is the tendency which appears in large clans.

I could keep another clan on another game well together, but I needed FIVE admins to keep a clan with twenty members united. And a lot of activity with a FREAKIN' LOT of CW's really helped. Especially considering the game system allowed 15 members to appear in a CW. JJ2 only allows 2-4 (maybe more but we need some huge maps for that). This factor greatly lowers the "ideal" amount of players for a clan.
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#12 | [q]2011-05-14 16:53
TW, I cared for Viper, I care for everyone in CDF. If somebody in CDF has a issue he/she should tell me and I will take my time to solve it. Its just a shame Viper left us like this.


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#13 | [q]2011-05-14 16:56
Yes, but the great size of CDF (20+ members) works against a clan. I dunno what Viper's issues were... If he tries to join GpW, it might be true that he thinks CDF is not good enough for him.

Which is an issue of weaker clans only: I don't really have experience with that considering I spent most of my leadership time in a #1 clan which was relatively about as powerful as CC's and GpW's Alpha WT's combined... the absolute strength of a clan is a binding factor.
And a very painful one to deal with if it works against you.
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#14 | [q]2011-05-14 17:15
ya jj2 clans are pretty big... It's partly rational on the part of the clans, beacause one has an insurance policy against inactivity. But it's not that good for the competitive scene.
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#15 | [q]2011-05-14 17:55
What lith said is nonsense, he just hates CDF for a reason I already forgot.

CDF is a big clan, active on multiple games, with a lot of inactive members, just like CC. Still we also have a lot of active members, many of them play jj2 for fun or only play competitively when they really want to, so I don't think we have that many players that get annoyed if they don't get a chance in a cw.

And then Viper, when he left NF (or was it GpW) he was talking about no one understanding him. We gave him another chance in CDF, it went well as we can see in this ladder and then he leaves without a reason, what a responsibility....
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#16 | [q]2011-05-14 18:37
ya ya good ms gj laro emo
I told Laro reason on MSN i dont want tell that reason here bcs it will be shame on CDF bcs that i left CDF i dont understand why you was talking that???
i won't say here but i said on MSN to laro -.-
shame on you laro emo
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#17 | [q]2011-05-14 18:43
Everyone knows GpW is better than CDF, didn't you before you joined?
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#18 | [q]2011-05-14 18:58
id reccomend you to talk about it on priv or sth because i dont think that anyone would care about your cdf bussiness
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#19 | [q]2011-05-14 19:02
What the hell is viper going on about. emo


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#20 | [q]2011-05-14 19:09
Viper, I didn't understand 80% of your ''talking'' on msn. emo


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#21 | [q]2011-05-14 19:10
this is rlly bad emo
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#22 | [q]2011-05-14 19:32
@moti: This would be CDF buisiness if Viper didn't want to join GpW, unless you guys recruit him anyway.
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#23 | [q]2011-05-14 19:46
oh i know you understand me laro and you just won't to i tell that what i read when somebody talked.
If i say that Laro belive me it won't be good for CDF...
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#24 | [q]2011-05-14 19:51
Viper read it again and then claim that you understand yourself xD
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#25 | [q]2011-05-14 20:03
Well Viper, I trusted your loyalty to CDF. Yesterday it went good and fun durning that ladder and today too. And left us now, what a waste.

Enough said. emo


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