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     NT Final Rounds | [q]2012-09-09 09:59
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Everyone is getting only buisier and buisier which is why I always wanted to stick to the deadlines and play everything as early as possible.
I suggest we try to finish this within a week. The deadline will be a bit later, but that doesnt stop you for scheduling your matches earlier.
First of all, all teams have until Monday 23:59 CEST to pick a map. You can pick a map from the entire NT mappool, not to be confused with the jj.net mappool. (YES IT IS* NOT JJ.NET MAPPOOL + NEW MAPS!)

Matches have to be scheduled before Thursday the 13th of September 23:59.

Matches have to be played before Friday the 21st of September 23:59.

I dont have to remind you that I will take actions when teams are unable to act before a deadline.

Final for 7th place:

Germany-Europe ( Bbswing, Wicked Wood*)

Final for 5th place:

Poland-Egypt (Semi, Gauntlet**)

Final for 3rd place:

Serbia-Finland (Gauntlet* ,Bbswing)

Final for 1st place:

Netherlands-Romania (GW, Semi)

*: Picked by MS
**: Changed from JE with the permission of the Polish team. //Grytolle

GL HF!


Edit: This means that levels can still be changed, as long as the opposing team agrees. That also applies to teams who had their map picked for them by a tournament official (MS).
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#1 | [q]2012-09-09 10:03
uhm so the NT map pool is or isn't the jjnet+new maps? srsly the formulation isn't completely clear on the post above atm
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#2 | [q]2012-09-09 10:15
I dont think I said anything implying that it is the same.

Still feel free to compare them yourself which is ofc the best thing to do, but for some reason everyone only reads these posts.
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#3 | [q]2012-09-09 10:38
"yes it it's not jjnet+new maps"
Guessing one it too much there?

Don't get me wrong, tourney organized well and all, just saying the post isn't completely clear, at least not to me.
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#4 | [q]2012-09-09 10:48
Sigh.

Quote:
"New" maps
Crystalline
EZtrig
This Level Is Untitled

Frontier Falls
TCS v3
City of the Sn00zE

Classics pool
-Happy Semiconductor
-Jungle's Edge
-BloodBunny's Lair
-Swingin Jazz (fixed)
-Galactic Warfare
-Epitome
-Distopia
-Wicked Wood
-Gauntlet
-Superconductor
-Diamondus Warzone[JJnet Edit]
-Security Breach v2
-Space Island Level with Islands
-Zaitox Station 67


This is the National Tournament mappool. It includes "new maps", along with some maps from the jj.net mappool ("classics pool"). However, the "classics pool" is not just a plain copy of the jj.net mappool. It's different and MS is trying to explain that to ...certain people, that's why he wrote that in his post.

Even then you could have just checked the rules.


I'm a jj.net/forum moderator - feel free to contact me if you have issues with the site or the forum.
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#5 | [q]2012-09-09 13:13
Doesn't the rule of who became first in a group can choose from the entire mappool and who became second only from the "new" maps still count?
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#6 | [q]2012-09-09 13:30
No, I had to abandon that for the finals, since it was theoretically quite likely that the teams who had won their groups would both move on. I'm currenly polishing up the rules, trying to deal with that tiebreaker situation last night - somehow trying to make it seem like Sven's application of the, admittedly non-existant rules, was sensible.

So to be clear: in the semi-finals (last round), the teams who had won the round had a certain advantage, in that they got to pick from a wider range of maps, and that they got to determine the map order.

In the remaining play-off matches, however, all teams get to pick from the entire mappool, and the map and colour order is determined by flipping coins.
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#7 | [q]2012-09-09 14:31
Will anyone add the link to the Romania-Serbia match?

And why is this promoted twice on the front page?
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#8 | [q]2012-09-09 14:49
Fixed.


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#9 | [q]2012-09-09 15:10
Oh, we both did it then! :p I also updated the tournament trees.
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#10 | [q]2012-09-09 17:11
NL i would rlly like to play the match before 17 september cuz after that,school starts here.
so lets agree for a time as soon as posibble!
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#11 | [q]2012-09-09 17:20
I told Lahm Sunday afternoon, he said he would talk to you guys.

Btw: Lazy asses, school started weeks ago for most ppl alrdy.
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#12 | [q]2012-09-09 17:39
emo


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#13 | [q]2012-09-09 18:16
Me and kenny agree to schedule the match this Saturdayemo
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#14 | [q]2012-09-09 18:53
Saturday afternoon is impossible for me, idk if the others can play in the evening. What about Sunday?
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#15 | [q]2012-09-09 20:56
For me only weekends are possible
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#16 | [q]2012-09-09 23:00
u guys cant play durin the week,in the evening?if not than saturday is the only option i guess,cuz i cant play sunday.
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#17 | [q]2012-09-10 08:05
So how about Saturday 20:00 CEST?
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#18 | [q]2012-09-10 11:36
cant play in the evening,maybe 16 30?
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#19 | [q]2012-09-10 19:05
16:30 is still afternoon, later is dinner time.

GG!

I wonder what you'll do the entire Saturday night from so early on, maybe ask your mom for an exception.
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#20 | [q]2012-09-10 19:32
Or mby you guys eat your dinner a bit later on that one day? You know, make an exception - some of you are old enough that you won't even have to ask your mom.

Find a time that suits you both, you can't expect just one side to adapt.
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#21 | [q]2012-09-10 19:47
Its mostly 17-19 and not everyone is going to wait for 1 person.
If you start at that time its in the middle of that time.
Anyway NL thinks its bs if ur only available that short time in the weekend.

Btw everyone expect Romania it seems, had school for weeks already and was able to play all their matches.
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#22 | [q]2012-09-10 20:04
I do not care so much about the day as I care about the hour.For exemple I can't play Sunday in the evening because next day school starts so I will have to prepare and get sleep earlier.I can't talk about my team bcs I still don't know thier program for these days.
Anyway Veg said he is available in weekends so you can make a sacrifice to play Saturday.
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#23 | [q]2012-09-10 20:05
Considering MS and Faw have other family members (parents, brothers and sisters) and dinner is that time of the day where you spend some time with each other in the Netherlands, changing the time of dinner is usually not an option. Although we're old or anything like that, it just won't work I can guarantee you that. It's just a rule in the Netherlands, this is how it works. I'd like to eat dinner too at a set time especially cause we have got to cook as well but that said I am still more flexible cause I don't live at my parents place anymore. The Dutch dinner time is simply in our culture and the Dutch respect those hours and count on them massively I guess.

I can play friday except for the evening, saturday and sunday. The rest of the (week)days I have lectures (and get home at 17-18-19 emo) so I am home too late + have to study/take care of all the daily house chores. I simply won't have the nerves nor the will/motivation to play a serious match then. Considering I travel 1.5-2h to the uni it's worse than "normally."

And like Sven said, RO doesn't have school yet, NL does. All of us are at uni's and therefore it's a *bit* difficult to just cancel the entire weekend out as days we can play at.

Iustyn wrote:
u guys cant play durin the week,in the evening?if not than saturday is the only option i guess,cuz i cant play sunday.


I missed this but I can't for the reasons stated above - it's simply a far from ideal situation for me.
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#24 | [q]2012-09-10 20:13
If you sleep earlier, can you still play from 19:30 till 20:30 CEST?
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#25 | [q]2012-09-10 20:50
Uhm I might have misread the convo so far, and if I have apologize, but why hasn't anyone thought about playing saturday morning? Like 10 am cet or 9 am cet (so that if it takes 2 hours like last time Romanians can make it to the early lunch at 12 00 their time - yes in some cultures people have lunch at 12 00).

Or well at anytime from say 10 to 12 cet?

I guess it has been mentioned and I just didn't notice it...
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