It looks to Cj, me, rag, moti and Krzysiek as though Hakum would be using unlimited ammo throughout this game, but we're curious what you guys think. Also, what would be a proper action to take for us admins? //Grytolle
Edit: CJ and I interrogated him. Here's what he had to say: pastebin.
Grytolle says (20:54) Sometimes you play good soemtimes you don't Hakum iB says (20:54) yes true Grytolle says (20:54) sometimes you win, sometimes you lose like hell Hakum iB says (20:54) like you ; d like all life is brutal and this is only lag,air game Grytolle says (20:55) nice philosophy Vivando says (20:55) idd!
Just watched Videos and no ammo count from me. Regardless i think we Should Not validate anything he does to waste our playtime if he is clearly Not legit to make a fair Environment for Games and Observation indicates unsound behavior.
@ KRSplat: That's no good solution. Recently I wanted to ban someone who kept changing his IP and spamming the servers, but I couldn't because there were several players within the same IP range (x.y.*.*).
Anyway I guess Hakum will get banned from the ladder for a long time. We, the Zeal Admins, haven't had a discussion about him yet, but since he can and most likely will change his IP (and he will do that for sure because he plays the game a lot), don't expect to see him banned for too long.
This time he didnt have 30 seconds, he used gmr during the /cstart, and after the game started he didnt shoot any ammo yet he still picked up some seekers, therefore thisis strong proof. Also his way of defending is really suspicious (as its said in the paste bin)
There were around 30 seconds between /nomovement on and his last GMR usage then. He had 30 seconds to shoot whatever before the game started. It was just circumstantial evidence and nothing more. It may be difficult to agree with me but I guess you're smart enough to see the logic x).
bro, you are shooting way too many seekers and electro blaster..
Bah i should have known that this guy was just exactly like sliver. The argument "Everyone can use it so i should use it too" is getting old. Same goes for the argument that sliver once had: "I have mega lags so i should be allowed to use cheats to compensate it".
It's really sad that people like this have so much disbelief in the community that they start cheating themselfs, which obviously won't make them any better..
dont worry urbs, its ok, because after I read this piece of news i'm pretty sure I never want to play this game again. JJ2 community has truly gone downhill so hard that it can't be properly described...
first of all:I KNEW IT!i didnt stop a sec thinking that he is fair and finally FINALLY it has been proved!i knew he couldnt be that good without those ****y cheats.and also i saw the difference between the ladders he was playing and the results was gettin and the simple matches(when he was probabilly not using cheats) and it was clear he is doing sth suspicious. about that bull**** with gpw...idk i mean i have to say i refused like most of the ladders in which hakum would have been playing in(exactly cuz of this) but except ib we didnt ladder cuz of inactivity.these *****ies are playing LoL and left me and pretty alone 1 more thing:i love u gry,sj and rag ofc <3.now brb watching hakum cheating in HD.
If he really did cheat (haven't watched the video yet): Deduct all points from matches played with him (not only in IB but also in previous clans he has been in), and add a harsh penalty to that too. And ban him for like a veery long period of time, because if he really did cheat now, he's probably been doing it for ages. Consider his arrogant behaviour both after getting caught now, and in general in JJ2 + remember how much effort he always put in convincing certain people that he's an honest player.
Edit: I haven't got time to analyze the video thoroughly right now, but there are many suspicious things. Like for example he uses GMR before starting in bblair, and then gets two seeker ammo pickups without having shot a single bullet in the game yet.
Well I remember the punishments CDF got for sth way less severe. I'd say just like for us, all suspicious matches which ib won should be removed. (All matches that include hakum) Then... we got a penalty of 10 points. I'd say ib gets at least 50, which should take them a week to recover from. Then ofcource I think Hakum should get a ban at least till there are some good anti-cheating measurements. If you are feeling sorry for him it should be AT LEAST 1 year.
Grytolle says (21:02) only iB will cheat anyway
So lets make sure they can't win and let justice prevail this season.