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cooba wrote:
I agree this is the explanation, but there's a deeper reason for the lack of interest, which I'm going to demonstrate:

The current system allows the top four to sit comfortably until the score limit is hit. In the previous system, where the season was over as soon as the score limit was hit, each non-leading clan had much more motivation to ascend the ladder and precede the leader. (I can't speak with 100% certainty here but I'm pretty sure GpW would be doing more than just posting idle comments, if there had been no playoffs.)

There is also the psychological effect of arranging your own CWs and choosing your opponent. Even if clanwars usually happen only between the top clans, making the process institutionalised takes away some of the "thrill" so to speak.

While there haven't been many CW's in the past, the statement that playoffs increased the number of clanwars is simply false, as proved by my earlier post. Therefore there is little to no benefit of keeping the playoff system in place.

The purpose of introducing the play-off system was actually to give the ladder a bit more prestige, since it used to be seen as just something that did not prove anything that we did while we waited for the next edition of JJ2WC. Anyway, I can follow your reasoning now, and eventhough I am not entirely convinced that trying out a tweaked version of the old system will make for more fun or more clanwar activity, I see no harm in trying it out next season (unless other admins disagree, of course).


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PS. All this nonsense about "rushing ladders" can be solved with a simple clause:
A clan may not submit or verify any matches until the clanwar challenge is either accepted or refused

That would solve the problem in the final stage where a clan might try to avoid a clanwar that they might lose by hitting 200 by playing a ton of ladder matches, yes, but it will do very little to put a cap on rewarding activity in general, which is one of the things that the play-offs do (but probably to a larger extent than you would prefer).