he fucking banned me for one day because i complained about it =[[. so watch out, toni abuse admin on!
cryin irl
http://upload.digiex.net/files/hg6bfqbkto1lnj8l3nnn.jpg
so anyways, as u can see almost every single NF member is now a trustee (for no reason actually). nobody ever asked us if we agree with them [ i mean seriously, who'd agree with a 11 years old kid to control us and take serious decisions like banning ].. im making this poll to see if u agree with toni as a trustee or not...
i dont wanna involve this into this subject, but look at persons like Lith. he worked really hard to get some power on this damn website and what did he succeed? hes now just a forum mod, and toni was chosen a trustee of all the zeals in 5 secs by jake and nerd because "he deserves it".
btw nerd i still have the chatlog of what u did to moti and me last night
he fucking banned me for one day because i complained about it =[[. so watch out, toni abuse admin on!
cryin irl
http://upload.digiex.net/files/hg6bfqbkto1lnj8l3nnn.jpg
so anyways, as u can see almost every single NF member is now a trustee (for no reason actually). nobody ever asked us if we agree with them [ i mean seriously, who'd agree with a 11 years old kid to control us and take serious decisions like banning ].. im making this poll to see if u agree with toni as a trustee or not...
i dont wanna involve this into this subject, but look at persons like Lith. he worked really hard to get some power on this damn website and what did he succeed? hes now just a forum mod, and toni was chosen a trustee of all the zeals in 5 secs by jake and nerd because "he deserves it".
btw nerd i still have the chatlog of what u did to moti and me last night ;-)
hey Ana, now that the bac is over I see you've got a lot of time to try to take me down joke
ok, i'll try clearing things up as much as I can...
~ I never said admins can't comment here, but seeing Jake's comments, i tend to think that taking toni's part and even calls me a "dick" he's not actually sharing an opinion. i don't know why, but i just have this feeling they're mad at me because I've done this.
~ this ISN'T meant to be taken as a hate-topic. i never said i agree or not with their decision, i only showed up what i think to everyone, even tho I see now you can't accept it. if standing up against something TOO many people agree with is smt bad, then excuse me - but this conversation is not for me.
~ i have not anything against anyone. imo Nerd, Jake and Toni are great persons, but they sometimes get too mad about stuff... but hey, everyone has his moments right? I never said nerd and jake are bad, they are both very good and solid admins, I was only talking about TONI being a trustee (not about nerd, not about jake, not about anyone in general - its about Toni).
~ my last comment about nerd was something personal idd, last night Nerd wanted to duel War but he refused to play in that server, so moti spectated off and Nerd banned her. he also kicked me twice, but this isn't important: it's off-topic.
~ i'm sorry if i sometimes tend to argue with many people here because of our different thoughts, i promise i'll stop now and let everyone share their opinion about this. hopefully nobody will hate me for doing this.
ok
hey Ana, now that the bac is over I see you've got a lot of time to try to take me down :D joke
ok, i'll try clearing things up as much as I can...
~ I never said admins can't comment here, but seeing Jake's comments, i tend to think that taking toni's part and even calls me a "dick" he's not actually sharing an opinion. i don't know why, but i just have this feeling they're mad at me because I've done this.
~ this ISN'T meant to be taken as a hate-topic. i never said i agree or not with their decision, i only showed up what i think to everyone, even tho I see now you can't accept it. if standing up against something TOO many people agree with is smt bad, then excuse me - but this conversation is not for me.
~ i have not anything against anyone. imo Nerd, Jake and Toni are great persons, but they sometimes get too mad about stuff... but hey, everyone has his moments right? I never said nerd and jake are bad, they are both very good and solid admins, I was only talking about TONI being a trustee (not about nerd, not about jake, not about anyone in general - its about Toni).
~ my last comment about nerd was something personal idd, last night Nerd wanted to duel War but he refused to play in that server, so moti spectated off and Nerd banned her. he also kicked me twice, but this isn't important: it's off-topic.
~ i'm sorry if i sometimes tend to argue with many people here because of our different thoughts, i promise i'll stop now and let everyone share their opinion about this. hopefully nobody will hate me for doing this.
ok
@nerd
LOL nobody tried preventing you from getting it, you simply joined the server and started begging Warrior for a duel. You kept crying about it for like an hour. We were about to play a few 2v2s, but you didn't let us to do so. You could just ask War to play on another server instead of this one where we're playing. Seriously, it's just sad that I had to point this out because you don't seem to catch it
@nerd
LOL nobody tried preventing you from getting it, you simply joined the server and started begging Warrior for a duel. You kept crying about it for like an hour. We were about to play a few 2v2s, but you didn't let us to do so. You could just ask War to play on another server instead of this one where we're playing. Seriously, it's just sad that I had to point this out because you don't seem to catch it
moti just wanted to run around, not to play (she said that herself in another ZD). I don't think that's a good reason to keep unspectating, especially when it hasn't been confirmed whether we'd play there or not (yes, Warrior was looking for a host, but I had no idea if he'd find one or not). I banned her for 25 minutes (the round would last for 25 minutes, so if I couldn't get to play that match in that time, she wouldn't be able to ruin anything else anyway). I kicked you mostly because you were making jokes about something I find serious and seemed to have the potential to delay us dueling (the round would only last for less than an hour then IIRC, so I couldn't let that happen, especially because your 2on2 was going to take another 20 minutes).
@ Galana: He had promised to duel me several weeks ago (so I thought not trying to hurry him would just have made it impossible to get him to duel before the round ends), I was short on time (the round was ending in an hour), it was about many points (165 minus the r:f decrease to be exact) and I want to win the competition this time. You didn't seem to be getting another 2on2 without him anyway, so I didn't see any problem with using that server.
But anyway, that's unrelated. If you think DZ is making bad decisions about promoting people, I think you should take that up with him in private, instead of starting a public thread about it, but well, having some public discussion might help him decide about Toni.
moti just wanted to run around, not to play (she said that herself in another ZD). I don't think that's a good reason to keep unspectating, especially when it hasn't been confirmed whether we'd play there or not (yes, Warrior was looking for a host, but I had no idea if he'd find one or not). I banned her for 25 minutes (the round would last for 25 minutes, so if I couldn't get to play that match in that time, she wouldn't be able to ruin anything else anyway). I kicked you mostly because you were making jokes about something I find serious and seemed to have the potential to delay us dueling (the round would only last for less than an hour then IIRC, so I couldn't let that happen, especially because your 2on2 was going to take another 20 minutes).
@ Galana: He had promised to duel me several weeks ago (so I thought not trying to hurry him would just have made it impossible to get him to duel before the round ends), I was short on time (the round was ending in an hour), it was about many points (165 minus the r:f decrease to be exact) and I want to win the competition this time. You didn't seem to be getting another 2on2 without him anyway, so I didn't see any problem with using that server.
But anyway, that's unrelated. If you think DZ is making bad decisions about promoting people, I think you should take that up with him in private, instead of starting a public thread about it, but well, having some public discussion might help him decide about Toni.
lol she unspectated only twice, and what if she wanted to play.. u weren't going to duel there anyway. War said that even if he finds a server or not he won't duel in that ZD because it was too laggy.
i dont get it, it's easy as that:
war didn't want to duel on that server = you weren't gonna duel with him in that ZD = no match in that ZD = anyone can play in that ZD, including moti
but its kinda lame to talk about it because its off topic.. start a thread about it XD
"having some public discussion might help him decide about Toni."
yeah thats a cool decision!
btw Im sad that u didnt find my jdc jokes funny
lol she unspectated only twice, and what if she wanted to play.. u weren't going to duel there anyway. War said that even if he finds a server or not he won't duel in that ZD because it was too laggy.
i dont get it, it's easy as that:
war didn't want to duel on that server = you weren't gonna duel with him in that ZD = no match in that ZD = anyone can play in that ZD, including moti
but its kinda lame to talk about it because its off topic.. start a thread about it XD
"having some public discussion might help him decide about Toni."
yeah thats a cool decision!
btw Im sad that u didnt find my jdc jokes funny :(
KiMO: I would have let him choose the map if he hadn't found a host because he was at a disadvantage. Also, moti didn't want to play, as I already stated. Using "running around" as an excuse to interfere with someone else's potential game is quite lame imo. She didn't want to play, she told me that herself.
KiMO: I would have let him choose the map if he hadn't found a host because he was at a disadvantage. Also, moti didn't want to play, as I already stated. Using "running around" as an excuse to interfere with someone else's potential game is quite lame imo. She didn't want to play, she told me that herself.
I kicked you mostly because you were making jokes about something I find serious
(...) I was short on time (the round was ending in an hour), it was about many points (165 minus the r:f decrease to be exact) and I want to win the competition this time.
sorry but this sounds like JDC would matter anything, it's just fun competition imo, not the real championship
just saying
Also, I thought that all jjnet admins have to discuss about letting somebody become an admin, not just two of them like in this case
[quote]I kicked you mostly because you were making jokes about something I find serious
(...) I was short on time (the round was ending in an hour), it was about many points (165 minus the r:f decrease to be exact) and I want to win the competition this time.[/quote]
sorry but this sounds like JDC would matter anything, it's just fun competition imo, not the real championship
just saying
Also, I thought that all jjnet admins have to discuss about letting somebody become an admin, not just two of them like in this case
Also, I thought that all jjnet admins have to discuss about letting somebody become an admin, not just two of them like in this case
Toni became a Zeal Trustee, not a JJnet admin. The Zeal server and JJnet are independent organizations. Yeah, they share many admins, but DZ has stated himself they don't have anything else in common.
[quote]Also, I thought that all [b]jjnet admins[/b] have to discuss about letting somebody become an admin, not just two of them like in this case[/quote]
Toni became a [b]Zeal Trustee[/b], not a [b]JJnet admin[/b]. The Zeal server and JJnet are independent organizations. Yeah, they share many admins, but DZ has stated himself they don't have anything else in common.
I thought we are a democratic community, i mean u should ask us at least in the second place if you want a job to be done right... that's my opinion. we have something to say too about it (especially because it affects us in the first place), don't we?
I thought we are a democratic community, i mean u should ask us at least in the second place if you want a job to be done right... that's my opinion. we have something to say too about it (especially because it affects us in the first place), don't we?
DZ should decide for himself who becomes an admin on his server. This community is not his however, so I think jj.net admins shouild be picked with a bit more democratic look, otherwise you will lose site visitors.
DZ should decide for himself who becomes an admin on his server. This community is not his however, so I think jj.net admins shouild be picked with a bit more democratic look, otherwise you will lose site visitors.
yeah, surely not provoking. you're an amazing admin, has anyone told u this before?
"I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT YOU DID TO YOU!!!"
"KiMO, I'd like not to be you now"
yeah, surely not provoking. you're an amazing admin, has anyone told u this before?
Kimo: Why duz NF get pickd admin for no reson, I got banned for no reson, me not trying to start flamwar tho i started it =(((.
Lithium: Yeah well therz no poynt bla bla.
Ana: Useless pol bla blah DZ duz wat he wnt...
Jake: No I band u for fakin and bein n ass
Nerd: blahblah pls take discushin in privte if want to talk bout ths plz
Toni: grr imma kimo lollo funneh topc y u provok me
Despite that I made the nutshell post hard to read, I'm not purposely trying to upset anyone. Just read this if you don't want to waste your time on this pointless argument.
You can play this game online???
This topic in a nutshell because this is TL;DR:
Kimo: Why duz NF get pickd admin for no reson, I got banned for no reson, me not trying to start flamwar tho i started it =(((.
Lithium: Yeah well therz no poynt bla bla.
Ana: Useless pol bla blah DZ duz wat he wnt...
Jake: No I band u for fakin and bein n ass
Nerd: blahblah pls take discushin in privte if want to talk bout ths plz
Toni: grr imma kimo lollo funneh topc y u provok me
Despite that I made the nutshell post hard to read, I'm not purposely trying to upset anyone. Just read this if you don't want to waste your time on this pointless argument.
Zeal servers are still owned by DZ. It's not a company, there's no stock exchange for ZD. The "community" doesn't own the Zeal Server.
And as far as I am concerned, Toni is not an admin.
Zeal servers are still owned by DZ. It's not a company, there's no stock exchange for ZD. The "community" doesn't own the Zeal Server.
And as far as I am concerned, Toni is not an admin.