Zoro did ask me to join. The others talked to Sulfur. I do not know if he convinced them to join or if they asked him, but I wasn't involved with that.
We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
Zoro did ask me to join. The others talked to Sulfur. I do not know if he convinced them to join or if they asked him, but I wasn't involved with that.
Sulfur said Blackeye wants a tryout and that he already played a duel with him. He also said that Blackeye was pretty good. Then I joined and we played two 2v2s, and I let him join. That's all.
We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
Sulfur said Blackeye wants a tryout and that he already played a duel with him. He also said that Blackeye was pretty good. Then I joined and we played two 2v2s, and I let him join. That's all.
Really CDF, why should you care so much about players who aren't going to be loyal anyway? If some member joined my clan and then just left to join another one, it's really the players fault. Some people are either 1. just too young to understand about being loyal to a clan or 2. make a big deal out of some ruckus they had with their previous members, or 3. Can't join the clan they've been wanting to join and temporarily in a silent manner stay with another clan. And eventually settle down somewhere.
I don't have much of an opinion on CDF. I prefer to keep it that way.
You can play this game online???
Really CDF, why should you care so much about players who aren't going to be loyal anyway? If some member joined my clan and then just left to join another one, it's really the players fault. Some people are either 1. just too young to understand about being loyal to a clan or 2. make a big deal out of some ruckus they had with their previous members, or 3. Can't join the clan they've been wanting to join and temporarily in a silent manner stay with another clan. And eventually settle down somewhere.
I don't have much of an opinion on CDF. I prefer to keep it that way.
@MS I won't even comment the fact that you looked up that in a dictionary and still managed to botch it up.
Flying the flag of self-pwn I see (now go look that up in the dictionary).
What does a MOD do if he doesn't manage in a forum specific fashion (called moderating).
Boyo, don't go into semantics plz.
You might want to look up the word semantics, you're sure to end up looking posh in most arguments.
Uhh as for the word posh, it's not the spice girl I had in mind. Come to think of it, she really isn't posh, she seems to be the antithesis of posh.
Oh dang, here I go again, using big words.
I really need to manage my wordsmithing. Oh my, the last sentence is a bit off, isn't it? Dear me, I do hope I haven't left the realms (dang!!!) of idiomatic (gry?) acceptability.
@MS I won't even comment the fact that you looked up that in a dictionary and still managed to botch it up.
Flying the flag of self-pwn I see (now go look that up in the dictionary).
What does a MOD do if he doesn't manage in a forum specific fashion (called moderating).
Boyo, don't go into semantics plz.
You might want to look up the word semantics, you're sure to end up looking posh in most arguments.
Uhh as for the word posh, it's not the spice girl I had in mind. Come to think of it, she really isn't posh, she seems to be the antithesis of posh.
Oh dang, here I go again, using big words.
I really need to manage my wordsmithing. Oh my, the last sentence is a bit off, isn't it? Dear me, I do hope I haven't left the realms (dang!!!) of idiomatic (gry?) acceptability.
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I fully agree with CR, how is this all related to the match? Weren't the forums made to prevent people from spamming match comments with unrelated discussions?
Also: inb4 moti deletes all comments
I fully agree with CR, how is this all related to the match? Weren't the forums made to prevent people from spamming match comments with unrelated discussions?
Also: inb4 moti deletes all comments
(This post has been helpful to 1 of the forumers.)
I'd rather not move this to the forum, because it will grow up in a bigger flamewar, then I'd have to deal with it and people would accuse me of being biased.
We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
I'd rather not move this to the forum, because it will grow up in a bigger flamewar, then I'd have to deal with it and people would accuse me of being biased.
And as much as I hate CDF, I can be neutral, while you have proven you can't. I even suggested CDF admins back then, while you would never do that in my place.
This is true. I'm not sure if Lith wanted a war against them nor if he did power abuse, but I agree that he sometimes insults others and talks shits on serbian (AFTER HE GOT INSULTED)
[quote]And as much as I hate CDF, I can be neutral, while you have proven you can't. I even suggested CDF admins back then, while you would never do that in my place.[/quote]
This is true. I'm not sure if Lith wanted a war against them nor if he did power abuse, but I agree that he sometimes insults others and talks shits on serbian (AFTER HE GOT INSULTED) :P
Are you only here to criticize me of something you may just have to look in the mirror for?
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@Vegito: Yes, he did. Also where do you see power abuse in that and what does it have to do with my forum moderating skills?
Also, do you see me overusing Serbian around? Do I post random messages in Serbian? Yes, I did flame ONCE in a match, for other stuff I have the right to talk about people in Serbian with Sulfur and my friends, just as you have the right to talk about me with Fawful or anyone.
I'd call THAT a double standard, since there are other people who use other languages in their comments and stuff.
@Laro: First of all, I did not ask him to join. He ASKED BY HIMSELF, and he didn't ask me, he asked Sulfur who called me to give Blackeye a tryout.
Also, solving it in a peaceful way? MS threatening me with a 'big trouble' is peaceful? Yeah, right
Wrong. You flame the shit out of people more often than you may just be thinking here, not just once. That is at jj2 indeed. The threatening of banning Blackeye obviously has something to do with jj.net. Read: Therefore you created this topic after all. What is the aka of that? Yeah, massive power abuse and not acting real. I didn't say you were using Serbian at jj.net, I didn't say I am using Dutch at jj.net either. Or am I hm? You should look at the Polish people then who also use Polish here, but that's what we got Polish moderators for after all.
The reason I go back to jj.net is for you opening topics about others not doing their jobs well, while it is you yourself who has a major problem too it seems. It's just damn fail to go around yelling at others when making mistakes yourself and I wish you to see that. All your topics annoyed me quite a bit while you're acting just as lame lol.
(And no, I don't go around talking Dutch about others at jj.net, using their names in front of their eyes saying bad stuff in a language they can't understand, like some people do, hm? )
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But you DID threaten me, and that's what matters, just as people ignore everything else and spam about me threatening Blackeye
Clearly you were the first to threaten others (Blackeye), after which "others" ran to admins to take care of things you couldn't solve cause of your own "ways of thinking."
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@ veg i wasn't implying u spend all your time on jjnet, it's just a phrase
Yeah, I got that. I felt like defending myself cause of the lack of seriousness the reply seemed to show. Sorry if I got that wrong.
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well not deleting members is plain wrong, and I told lith to stop it with his CDF obsession, but I guess it's hard.
But people really shouldn't look at the flow of members from one clan to another so seriously. it's part of the game, don't make such a big fuss
(yes I know that in the particular case, there seem to have been some complications, lets call it)
As for the leadership choice: Lith has proven that he can run the forums, and since neither me or kenny have the time necessary to manage stuff, we gave lith a chance. It's a rational choice.
We could have asked hordy, but he is too random, because of his swimming lessons and isn't active enough either.
Some other candidates didn't want the job, and some others weren't offered.
I am not saying you need to change leadership or whatever either actually. I just wish Lith would shape up, and would just be more neutral in some cases like he and some others (moti etc.) had to point out to me too . These cases mostly consist of anything related to CDF or other admins.
The problem which I guess everyone can see now is that he used his leadership position in GpW plus him being a moderator here, to threaten a CDF member he'd get banned for multiclanning if he'd not leave CDF right away again. Of course that's not just one minor mistake to make. He should've never used either of these positions while Blackeye made up his mind. It was not fair at all for him to be threatened with "omg multiclanning" by Lith, while it was in Liths hands to delete Blackeye from the GpW memberlist too.
Either way, if he'd stop making some random mistakes he'd be a great leader I am sure of that. He should just be more careful with what he does/says cause he's crossing the border of what you may, and may not say at times now.
Either way, I hope the point came across now anyway. Lith generally does a gj moderating the forums, that for sure. However sometimes.. All of the above
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I really need to manage my wordsmithing. Oh my, the last sentence is a bit off, isn't it? Dear me, I do hope I haven't left the realms (dang!!!) of idiomatic (gry?) acceptability.
Love those sentences actually xD
[quote]beg to differ[/quote]
Are you only here to criticize me of something you may just have to look in the mirror for?
[quote]@Vegito: Yes, he did. Also where do you see power abuse in that and what does it have to do with my forum moderating skills?
Also, do you see me overusing Serbian around? Do I post random messages in Serbian? Yes, I did flame ONCE in a match, for other stuff I have the right to talk about people in Serbian with Sulfur and my friends, just as you have the right to talk about me with Fawful or anyone.
I'd call THAT a double standard, since there are other people who use other languages in their comments and stuff.
@Laro: First of all, I did not ask him to join. He ASKED BY HIMSELF, and he didn't ask me, he asked Sulfur who called me to give Blackeye a tryout.
Also, solving it in a peaceful way? MS threatening me with a 'big trouble' is peaceful? Yeah, right ;-)[/quote]
Wrong. You flame the shit out of people more often than you may just be thinking here, not just once. That is at jj2 indeed. The threatening of banning Blackeye obviously has something to do with jj.net. Read: Therefore you created this topic after all. What is the aka of that? Yeah, massive power abuse and not acting real. I didn't say you were using Serbian at jj.net, I didn't say I am using Dutch at jj.net either. Or am I hm? You should look at the Polish people then who also use Polish here, but that's what we got Polish moderators for after all.
The reason I go back to jj.net is for you opening topics about others not doing their jobs well, while it is you yourself who has a major problem too it seems. It's just damn fail to go around yelling at others when making mistakes yourself and I wish you to see that. All your topics annoyed me quite a bit while you're acting just as lame lol.
(And no, I don't go around talking Dutch about others at jj.net, using their names in front of their eyes saying bad stuff in a language they can't understand, like some people do, hm? :) )
[quote]But you DID threaten me, and that's what matters, just as people ignore everything else and spam about me threatening Blackeye :P[/quote]
Clearly you were the first to threaten others (Blackeye), after which "others" ran to admins to take care of things you couldn't solve cause of your own "ways of thinking."
[quote]@ veg i wasn't implying u spend all your time on jjnet, it's just a phrase:)[/quote]
Yeah, I got that. I felt like defending myself cause of the lack of seriousness the reply seemed to show. Sorry if I got that wrong.
[quote]well not deleting members is plain wrong, and I told lith to stop it with his CDF obsession, but I guess it's hard.
But people really shouldn't look at the flow of members from one clan to another so seriously. it's part of the game, don't make such a big fuss:)
(yes I know that in the particular case, there seem to have been some complications, lets call it)
As for the leadership choice: Lith has proven that he can run the forums, and since neither me or kenny have the time necessary to manage stuff, we gave lith a chance. It's a rational choice.
We could have asked hordy, but he is too random, because of his swimming lessons and isn't active enough either.
Some other candidates didn't want the job, and some others weren't offered.[/quote]
I am not saying you need to change leadership or whatever either actually. I just wish Lith would shape up, and would just be more neutral in some cases like he and some others (moti etc.) had to point out to me too ;). These cases mostly consist of anything related to CDF or other admins.
The problem which I guess everyone can see now is that he used his leadership position in GpW plus him being a moderator here, to threaten a CDF member he'd get banned for multiclanning if he'd not leave CDF right away again. Of course that's not just one minor mistake to make. He should've never used either of these positions while Blackeye made up his mind. It was not fair at all for him to be threatened with "omg multiclanning" by Lith, while it was in Liths hands to delete Blackeye from the GpW memberlist too.
Either way, if he'd stop making some random mistakes he'd be a great leader I am sure of that. He should just be more careful with what he does/says cause he's crossing the border of what you may, and may not say at times now.
Either way, I hope the point came across now anyway. Lith generally does a gj moderating the forums, that for sure. However sometimes.. All of the above :)
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I really need to manage my wordsmithing. Oh my, the last sentence is a bit off, isn't it? Dear me, I do hope I haven't left the realms (dang!!!) of idiomatic (gry?) acceptability.[/quote]
Love those sentences actually xD
Clearly you were the first to threaten others (Blackeye), after which "others" ran to admins to take care of things you couldn't solve cause of your own "ways of thinking."
Not really; MS and Laro threatened me before I knew Blackeye hopped back to CDF.
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The problem which I guess everyone can see now is that he used his leadership position in GpW plus him being a moderator here
Me being a forum mod has nothing to do with Blackeye.
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The reason I go back to jj.net is for you opening topics about others not doing their jobs well, while it is you yourself who has a major problem too it seems. It's just damn fail to go around yelling at others when making mistakes yourself and I wish you to see that. All your topics annoyed me quite a bit while you're acting just as lame lol.
I never opened multiple topics. If this is about the JCF thread, yes, I admit I did it wrong. I realize admins' work is hard because I'm a forum mod now, and I have said it a few times. No need to bring it up again.
We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
[quote]Clearly you were the first to threaten others (Blackeye), after which "others" ran to admins to take care of things you couldn't solve cause of your own "ways of thinking."[/quote]
Not really; MS and Laro threatened me before I knew Blackeye hopped back to CDF.
[quote]The problem which I guess everyone can see now is that he used his leadership position in GpW plus him being a moderator here[/quote]
Me being a forum mod has nothing to do with Blackeye.
[quote]The reason I go back to jj.net is for you opening topics about others not doing their jobs well, while it is you yourself who has a major problem too it seems. It's just damn fail to go around yelling at others when making mistakes yourself and I wish you to see that. All your topics annoyed me quite a bit while you're acting just as lame lol.[/quote]
I never opened multiple topics. If this is about the JCF thread, yes, I admit I did it wrong. I realize admins' work is hard because I'm a forum mod now, and I have said it a few times. No need to bring it up again.
Don't you remember the last time DZ almost shut down the ZDs cause of your and kimo's threads? :p. Admins and democracy, the toni thread, who's the best admin thread.. All meant only with one purpose. Creating an uproar that'd support you.
And you threatening to ban him for multiclanning *does* have something to do with being a mod/jj.net now does it? (And yeah, the JCF thread too, forgot about that.) Gotta say since then it improved I guess. (O, and that's at least 3 topics + several others opened by Kimo where you gladly joined the side of Kimo and the likes. Definitely sounds like multiple threads to me.)
But then again I guess that *should* have stopped now with the creation of Steel Duels and you realizing being an admin is quite a painful job and you may be called back to your place at times.
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But you DID threaten me, and that's what matters, just as people ignore everything else and spam about me threatening Blackeye
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I warned you, after 'we tried to solve it in a peacefull way'. And it seems that you are starting to get in trouble already.
As I get it, a CDF leader threatens a GpW leader after GpW leader threatens CDF member to get him banned for multiclanning
Either way, doesn't matter as much. Fact is you threatened to use your powers to ban Blackeye for multiclanning which wasn't a valid reason at all. All I want to see is the shitty CDF-Lith situation to end, and not ever so see a power abuse threat like that cause that was plain bullshit. Can't say something like that in any case where you're not neutral, it should be obvious.
Don't you remember the last time DZ almost shut down the ZDs cause of your and kimo's threads? :p. Admins and democracy, the toni thread, who's the best admin thread.. All meant only with one purpose. Creating an uproar that'd support you.
And you threatening to ban him for multiclanning *does* have something to do with being a mod/jj.net now does it? (And yeah, the JCF thread too, forgot about that.) Gotta say since then it improved I guess. (O, and that's at least 3 topics + several others opened by Kimo where you gladly joined the side of Kimo and the likes. Definitely sounds like multiple threads to me.)
But then again I guess that *should* have stopped now with the creation of Steel Duels and you realizing being an admin is quite a painful job and you may be called back to your place at times.
[quote]But you DID threaten me, and that's what matters, just as people ignore everything else and spam about me threatening Blackeye :P[/quote]
[quote]I warned you, after 'we tried to solve it in a peacefull way'. And it seems that you are starting to get in trouble already.[/quote]
As I get it, a CDF leader threatens a GpW leader after GpW leader threatens CDF member to get him banned for multiclanning :S
Either way, doesn't matter as much. Fact is you threatened to use your powers to ban Blackeye for multiclanning which wasn't a valid reason at all. All I want to see is the shitty CDF-Lith situation to end, and not ever so see a power abuse threat like that cause that was plain bullshit. Can't say something like that in any case where you're not neutral, it should be obvious.
The best admin thread was completely random, and 'admins and democracy' was made after a discussion on admins in the Toni thread.
No, it wasn't that way. MS threatened me BEFORE I threatened Blackeye.
We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
The best admin thread was completely random, and 'admins and democracy' was made after a discussion on admins in the Toni thread.
No, it wasn't that way. MS threatened me BEFORE I threatened Blackeye.
Which shouldn't matter. MS threatening you for not being able to solve problems peacefully, or you threatening Blackeye to get banned for multiclanning. Both is wrong but you threatening to abuse your power is something that definitely should not be done. Especially not considering the solution was in your hands.
Which shouldn't matter. MS threatening you for not being able to solve problems peacefully, or you threatening Blackeye to get banned for multiclanning. Both is wrong but you threatening to abuse your power is something that definitely should not be done. Especially not considering the solution was in your hands.
Are you only here to criticize me of something you may just have to look in the mirror for?
You just typed out over 3000 characters about "power abuse", maybe you should stop posting and just play the game for a change
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[quote]Are you only here to criticize me of something you may just have to look in the mirror for?[/quote]
You just typed out over 3000 characters about "power abuse", maybe you should stop posting and just play the game for a change
Thanks for an interesting fact and all. I hardly played the game lately nor I am spending hours at jj.net if you'd look at my activity in the past what, 4 months or something . So maybe I can spend an hour at posting now. I fail to see your point though, you've been picking me as a target for about a year now although others who created similar posts/threads would not be targetted. Can't we simply have a chat or something?
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I don't remember having done any harm to you or whatever to deserve any kind of sarcastic behaviour for a year or something now other than that moti ban which was in February of this year (which was moti, and not you for that matter). That's been talked about over and over and I don't think anyone else makes a point out of that anymore. Not moti or gienka either.
I am not even mentioning the official demote thing which took quite some time to overrule. I just wish to at least have some proper chat if that's even possible cause this is getting tiring/boring.
Thanks for an interesting fact and all. I hardly played the game lately nor I am spending hours at jj.net if you'd look at my activity in the past what, 4 months or something ;). So maybe I can spend an hour at posting now. I fail to see your point though, you've been picking me as a target for about a year now although others who created similar posts/threads would not be targetted. Can't we simply have a chat or something?
Edit: (Blame the site for the page taking 3 minutes to load, so the edit took some time :) )
I don't remember having done any harm to you or whatever to deserve any kind of sarcastic behaviour for a year or something now other than that moti ban which was in February of this year (which was moti, and not you for that matter). That's been talked about over and over and I don't think anyone else makes a point out of that anymore. Not moti or gienka either.
I am not even mentioning the official demote thing which took quite some time to overrule. I just wish to at least have some proper chat if that's even possible cause this is getting tiring/boring.
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Especially not considering the solution was in your hands.
How so? I recruited a bunch of CDFers who all ASKED to join. Laro shows up, "get back to CDF slaves, GpW sucks", Zoro and Blackeye return. Then Laro and MS come to a server where I was chatting with Sulfur, "DON'T STEAL OUR MEMBERS OR YOU WILL BE IN BIG TROUBLE".
I shouldn't have threatened Blackeye, but what else could have I done?
We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
[quote]Especially not considering the solution was in your hands.[/quote]
How so? I recruited a bunch of CDFers who all ASKED to join. Laro shows up, "get back to CDF slaves, GpW sucks", Zoro and Blackeye return. Then Laro and MS come to a server where I was chatting with Sulfur, "DON'T STEAL OUR MEMBERS OR YOU WILL BE IN BIG TROUBLE".
I shouldn't have threatened Blackeye, but what else could have I done?