To be honest: This CDF-GpW war may be longer and longer. I think there's a way: just to leave this discussion and deal with it. If player wants be in CDF, he can be. If player wants be in GpW, he can be. No need to force. No need to blame leader in slavership. We can't discuss and blame who's right and who's not, cuz we'll never find way out...
I have joined GpW, then I made decision to go back to CDF and never betray by clanhopping.
I understood: if i chosen CDF clan, i'll stay there... It's my choice. CDF is some sort of family for me.
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To be honest: This CDF-GpW war may be longer and longer. I think there's a way: just to leave this discussion and deal with it. If player wants be in CDF, he can be. If player wants be in GpW, he can be. No need to force. No need to blame leader in slavership. We can't discuss and blame who's right and who's not, cuz we'll never find way out...
I have joined GpW, then I made decision to go back to CDF and never betray by clanhopping.
I understood: if i chosen CDF clan, i'll stay there... It's my choice. CDF is some sort of family for me.
I shouldn't have threatened Blackeye, but what else could have I done?
Prioritize. Blackeye is hardly good enough of a member to risk this kind of drama. Also, you could have made a better effort not mixing JJnet and GpW business. I know it's hard and maybe even impossible (cuz thinks are intertwined - think of ZD and JJnet), but it can certainly be handled a bit better than this situation.
Anyways, let's pat ourselves on the backs. Remember the days when we actually had stuff to make drama about? Ron vs. CDF was around back then too, after all.
If Ron could realize that it's quite unneeded for a leader of one of JJ2's top clans to keep picking on a relatively harmless weaker clan, and take solace in the fact that his clan simply is more successful, then I'm sure that this whole CDF-Lithium conflict could come to an end.
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[quote]I shouldn't have threatened Blackeye, but what else could have I done?[/quote]Prioritize. Blackeye is hardly good enough of a member to risk this kind of drama. Also, you could have made a better effort not mixing JJnet and GpW business. I know it's hard and maybe even impossible (cuz thinks are intertwined - think of ZD and JJnet), but it can certainly be handled a bit better than this situation.
Anyways, let's pat ourselves on the backs. Remember the days when we actually had stuff to make drama about? Ron vs. CDF was around back then too, after all.
If Ron could realize that it's quite unneeded for a leader of one of JJ2's top clans to keep picking on a relatively harmless weaker clan, and take solace in the fact that his clan simply is more successful, then I'm sure that this whole CDF-Lithium conflict could come to an end.
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I found this situation rather confusing. Threaten this, threaten that...blah blah whatever. If I had some member leave to join another clan, I would see no point to start making such posts about it, but then I'm not the kind of person to threaten other clans for members hopping to theirs.
You can play this game online???
I found this situation rather confusing. Threaten this, threaten that...blah blah whatever. If I had some member leave to join another clan, I would see no point to start making such posts about it, but then I'm not the kind of person to threaten other clans for members hopping to theirs.
First of all some people should stick to the topic or keep their mouth shut. (Cooba, Urbs)
Lithium, you keep twisting the things people said, so it looks like you didn't do anything wrong.
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"DON'T STEAL OUR MEMBERS OR YOU WILL BE IN BIG TROUBLE".
I warned you to stop it, I didn't threaten you.
You didn't do anything with my advice, moreover you tried to deceive Blackeye a second time almost directly afterwards.
This and all the previous things you did caused this forum thread to exist, lets not talk about what could still happen, I hope you see that you did cause trouble already.
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I shouldn't have threatened Blackeye, but what else could have I done?
What else could you have done??? How about nothing?
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I recruited a bunch of CDFers who all ASKED to join. Laro shows up, "get back to CDF slaves, GpW sucks", Zoro and Blackeye return.
[GpW]Lithium: in a few days, I will let you rejoin GpW Zoro: no thx
[GpW]Lithium: CDF sucks [GpW]Lithium: not you
[19:32:50] [GpW]Lithium: so, I give you one more chance
[19:32:57] [GpW]Lithium: put back the GpW tag
Yes I see, it was us telling our members which clan sucked.
And suddenly half of CDF wanted to join GpW and asked you.
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Then Laro and MS come to a server where I was chatting with Sulfur
Sulfur was there first, then I came, then you and then Laro.
First of all some people should stick to the topic or keep their mouth shut. (Cooba, Urbs)
Lithium, you keep twisting the things people said, so it looks like you didn't do anything wrong.
[quote]"DON'T STEAL OUR MEMBERS OR YOU WILL BE IN BIG TROUBLE".
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I warned you to stop it, I didn't threaten you.
You didn't do anything with my advice, moreover you tried to deceive Blackeye a second time almost directly afterwards.
This and all the previous things you did caused this forum thread to exist, lets not talk about what could still happen, I hope you see that you did cause trouble already.
[quote]I shouldn't have threatened Blackeye, but what else could have I done?
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What else could you have done??? How about nothing?
[quote]I recruited a bunch of CDFers who all ASKED to join. Laro shows up, "get back to CDF slaves, GpW sucks", Zoro and Blackeye return. [/quote]
[GpW]Lithium: in a few days, I will let you rejoin GpW Zoro: no thx
[GpW]Lithium: CDF sucks [GpW]Lithium: not you
[19:32:50] [GpW]Lithium: so, I give you one more chance
[19:32:57] [GpW]Lithium: put back the GpW tag
Yes I see, it was us telling our members which clan sucked.
And suddenly half of CDF wanted to join GpW and asked you.
[quote]Then Laro and MS come to a server where I was chatting with Sulfur[/quote]
Sulfur was there first, then I came, then you and then Laro.
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Veg, I was just LOLing at the situation, I seriously wasn't being disrespectful to you (but mby was being disrespectful to the situation, but surely you can't blame me for that, can you?).
I really hate this CDF business and I would tend to agree with gry's analysis.
Oh and MS, whilst I fully understand CDF's wrath, I will not have somebody like you (yes, personal offense right here) question my inaccurate phrasing. I think this whole situation is silly and couldn't care less for the noobs that were involved in the trade-off and for the rest of the people who actually seem to feel this is imporatant. But what I do dislike very much is when you start with a definition debate in midst of a childish flamewar. So no thanks, I won't stfu thank you very much.
I'm getting sick of this whole Laro slavery thing, it's getting old. If CDF owned slaves, those slaves would rebel within a week and kill them all. If gry/chiyu owned slaves, that'd be different, they're actually capable enough IMO (btw this is a joke, and I'm not implying gry would want to own slaves, although slaves are always practical) )
On the side of CDF mby also a less, shall we say, fearful reaction would probably work better. Why would you care about some noobish members which are obviously not going to be loyal in the long run? They're gonna come and go anyway. (again, the non deleting thing is a bit wrong, I might be generalizing the situation too much)
Interesting point, 3 months back Maximus from CDF begged me not to "destroy" cdf (as if that was ever anybody's intention, frankly CDF take themselves far too seriously if they think anybody with half a brain cell would bother devoting it to the destruction of their clan). He did that at a time when a lot of people were leaving CDF and when tensions were arising between MS and the rest of CDF (post CC war, when MS, rather ironically, got pwnt on MS). I gave my word to Maximus back then that GpW wouldn't welcome any CDFers even if they asked to join and we had 2-3 discussions about how they should really consider some changes (some staff changes were mentioned from my side, and the fact that maybe they should just start playing smarter and a whole lot of stuff that I completely forgot about).
So there is no general animosity from my side. In spite of the above post I think of CDF as a decent clan, with generally good behavior (MS is actually a rather valiant oponent who rarely bitches or complains, so kudos for that). I don't really think any gpwer other than Ron has anything against you (supposedly from the RA or iR days).
Ron when it comes to recruiting: if a member leaves, screw it, there's nothing you can do. If you'll get so angry over every single one member, you'll go insane. I would advise Laro to not get all worked up over every single member lost, but that's just a friendly advice that he definitely doesn't need to listen to, as he is fully capable of runining his clan.
Peace, yo.
Where my bro space at?
Veg, I was just LOLing at the situation, I seriously wasn't being disrespectful to you (but mby was being disrespectful to the situation, but surely you can't blame me for that, can you?).
I really hate this CDF business and I would tend to agree with gry's analysis.
Oh and MS, whilst I fully understand CDF's wrath, I will not have somebody like you (yes, personal offense right here) question my inaccurate phrasing. I think this whole situation is silly and couldn't care less for the noobs that were involved in the trade-off and for the rest of the people who actually seem to feel this is imporatant. But what I do dislike very much is when you start with a definition debate in midst of a childish flamewar. So no thanks, I won't stfu thank you very much.
I'm getting sick of this whole Laro slavery thing, it's getting old. If CDF owned slaves, those slaves would rebel within a week and kill them all. If gry/chiyu owned slaves, that'd be different, they're actually capable enough IMO:) (btw this is a joke, and I'm not implying gry would want to own slaves, although slaves are always practical:)) )
On the side of CDF mby also a less, shall we say, fearful reaction would probably work better. Why would you care about some noobish members which are obviously not going to be loyal in the long run? They're gonna come and go anyway. (again, the non deleting thing is a bit wrong, I might be generalizing the situation too much)
Interesting point, 3 months back Maximus from CDF begged me not to "destroy" cdf (as if that was ever anybody's intention, frankly CDF take themselves far too seriously if they think anybody with half a brain cell would bother devoting it to the destruction of their clan). He did that at a time when a lot of people were leaving CDF and when tensions were arising between MS and the rest of CDF (post CC war, when MS, rather ironically, got pwnt on MS). I gave my word to Maximus back then that GpW wouldn't welcome any CDFers even if they asked to join and we had 2-3 discussions about how they should really consider some changes (some staff changes were mentioned from my side, and the fact that maybe they should just start playing smarter and a whole lot of stuff that I completely forgot about).
So there is no general animosity from my side. In spite of the above post I think of CDF as a decent clan, with generally good behavior (MS is actually a rather valiant oponent who rarely bitches or complains, so kudos for that). I don't really think any gpwer other than Ron has anything against you (supposedly from the RA or iR days).
Ron when it comes to recruiting: if a member leaves, screw it, there's nothing you can do. If you'll get so angry over every single one member, you'll go insane. I would advise Laro to not get all worked up over every single member lost, but that's just a friendly advice that he definitely doesn't need to listen to, as he is fully capable of runining his clan.
Peace, yo.
Where my bro space at?
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k, it has been proven that Lithium is trying to recruit CDFers (i got more chatlogs), but damn, im getting sick of this.
but lemme tell this, CDF members have nothing to do with it, so don't take advantage of CDF members but face me and MS if you have a problem but leave CDFers out of this. Im not taking advantage from GpW members, like telling them bad things about GpW, did I? No I don't, im not a coward.
I think I know why you hate me, its because of the old days. Well I do not know everything so clear back then but if I did something really bad to you then you got my sincere apologies.
@Zoro, it isn't GpW-CDF war, its a Lith-CDF war which I would like to see disappear now. As I said before, none is getting better of this.
@Urbs, I agree that the "slavery" thing is getting old. Cmon it's just ridicelous. Slavery, on the internet?! Cmon! xD
"It is amazing what can be accomplished when nobody cares about who gets the credit.” ~Robert Yates
k, it has been proven that Lithium is trying to recruit CDFers (i got more chatlogs), but damn, im getting sick of this.
but lemme tell this, CDF members have nothing to do with it, so don't take advantage of CDF members but face me and MS if you have a problem but leave CDFers out of this. Im not taking advantage from GpW members, like telling them bad things about GpW, did I? No I don't, im not a coward.
I think I know why you hate me, its because of the old days. Well I do not know everything so clear back then but if I did something really bad to you then you got my sincere apologies.
@Zoro, it isn't GpW-CDF war, its a Lith-CDF war which I would like to see disappear now. As I said before, none is getting better of this.
@Urbs, I agree that the "slavery" thing is getting old. Cmon it's just ridicelous. Slavery, on the internet?! Cmon! xD
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Well Urbs, CDF ignored the whole trolling actions, but eventually we would lose our patience. Remember: from actions come consiquenses.
The post CC-CDF conflict is over, I must say alot of people have a wrong view to MS, but I can tell you all he is a really good player and a nice friend once you get to know him. Even Chiyu said (at the end of NT) that MS is actually a good teamplayer.
Now core members of CDF and CC are friendly to eachother and I want to keep it that way, peace is way better then war, I think everybody agree.
"It is amazing what can be accomplished when nobody cares about who gets the credit.” ~Robert Yates
Well Urbs, CDF ignored the whole trolling actions, but eventually we would lose our patience. Remember: from actions come consiquenses.
The post CC-CDF conflict is over, I must say alot of people have a wrong view to MS, but I can tell you all he is a really good player and a nice friend once you get to know him. Even Chiyu said (at the end of NT) that MS is actually a good teamplayer.
Now core members of CDF and CC are friendly to eachother and I want to keep it that way, peace is way better then war, I think everybody agree.
it has been proven that Lithium is trying to recruit CDFers
For the last time: I did not ask any of them to join. They all asked me. Sure, I wanted them in but I did not ask them to join.
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I think I know why you hate me, its because of the old days. Well I do not know everything so clear back then but if I did something really bad to you then you got my sincere apologies.
Accepted. I'd also like to apologize to you for some other things I did in the past(I really did not try to steal your members here). I hope we're done with this.
I'm going to leave this thread open for a bit if someone wants to say something smart, then I'll close it.
We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
[quote]it has been proven that Lithium is trying to recruit CDFers[/quote]
For the last time: I did not ask any of them to join. They all asked me. Sure, I wanted them in but I did not ask them to join.
[quote]I think I know why you hate me, its because of the old days. Well I do not know everything so clear back then but if I did something really bad to you then you got my sincere apologies.[/quote]
Accepted. I'd also like to apologize to you for some other things I did in the past(I really did not try to steal your members here). I hope we're done with this.
I'm going to leave this thread open for a bit if someone wants to say something smart, then I'll close it.
dont mention me in such pathetic threads like this one, especially when they dont concern me plz thx
the same thinking.
Also, I'm not trying to be funny, but, who is Blackeye?
[quote]dont mention me in such pathetic threads like this one, especially when they dont concern me plz thx[/quote]
the same thinking.
Also, I'm not trying to be funny, but, who is Blackeye? :P
If CDF owned slaves, those slaves would rebel within a week and kill them all.
Urbs, you read the Wheel of Time. Do damane hate being slaves? The ones born in Seanchan, I mean.
Anyway, CDF doesn't really own slaves, but some of their members are too zealous in showing their loyalty.
We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
[quote]If CDF owned slaves, those slaves would rebel within a week and kill them all.[/quote]
Urbs, you read the Wheel of Time. Do [i]damane[/i] hate being slaves? The ones born in Seanchan, I mean. :P
Anyway, CDF doesn't really own slaves, but some of their members are too zealous in showing their loyalty.
Ron, this thread... you are a clanleader, and you certainly know better than to do this (when you started this thread to begin with) Why did you degrade yourself to... this...
Ron, this thread... you are a clanleader, and you certainly know better than to do this (when you started this thread to begin with) Why did you degrade yourself to... [i]this...[/i]
Lithium, you said that CDF is sux... What's choice i had on that time?
Join GpW? I thinked about it a lot. Then like a betrayel joined GpW...
I have not been pleased in GpW, so i made decision to go back.
GpW is well-respected clan and it has nice members. But I still don't see any point why you hate CDF?
CDF have deserved same respect as any clan... And CDF does not force member to stay in the clan.
He may leave or join as he want... It's not slavery!
I don't understand how long it may continue...
...So Grytolle, Close this Topic atleast..! Please.
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Lithium, you said that CDF is sux... What's choice i had on that time?
Join GpW? I thinked about it a lot. Then like a betrayel joined GpW...
I have not been pleased in GpW, so i made decision to go back.
GpW is well-respected clan and it has nice members. But I still don't see any point why you hate CDF?
CDF have deserved same respect as any clan... And CDF does not force member to stay in the clan.
He may leave or join as he want... It's not slavery!
I don't understand how long it may continue...
...So Grytolle, [b][color=red]Close this Topic[/color][/b] atleast..! Please.
I'm Agreeing with MS here,lith triyed to get me in too.saying that CDF is a slavery made of MS,LR(laro) which isnt the migthy truth.well i rejoined GpW bcs its my mother nature clan.not bcs of skills just bcs of leaders,romanian friends,etcAnd the migthy leader Urbs!
ius is black
I'm Agreeing with MS here,lith triyed to get me in too.saying that CDF is a slavery made of MS,LR(laro) which isnt the migthy truth.well i rejoined GpW bcs its my mother nature clan.not bcs of skills just bcs of leaders,romanian friends,etcAnd the migthy leader Urbs! :kali:
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Edit: You mean that saying that CDF isn't slavery isn't a smart opinion? :p Nice way to try to get the last word. Hereby ruined. //Gry
We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
*sigh* I hoped for smarter posts.
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Edit: You mean that saying that CDF isn't slavery isn't a smart opinion? :p Nice way to try to get the last word. Hereby ruined. //Gry
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(btw this is a joke, and I'm not implying gry would want to own slaves, although slaves are always practical
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