I wish to give you guys some information that may alter the entire jj2 competetive scene.
First, no, and I mean no game which is played at the ladder is trustworthy anymore. Every game may have someone playing with radar and it isn't traceable.
Now players may be wondering why in the world I would state such thing. First of all, I got my hands on Radar v2 today. I know exactly what is possible now. The levellist this radar version works on: Semi, JE, BBlair, BBswing, silwi, Gauntlet, Epitome, FF, WW, Distopia, super, TCS, DW and Zaitox.
I can test it out with you guys if you want, I dont care. I can give all information by just checking radar basically. I even know everybodies health.
Ah, I also dont need teamchat anymore because I know when my flagcarrier is low and I know when to shout "S" because I can see enemy flagcarrier getting 1. All automatically.
Now I cannot tell how long this has been around already, I just know from a source he's been given a couple of untraceable Radar versions already.
I'll be able to show screenshots and I will be able to give evidence of everything I am stating. You can come visit me at my house and I'll show you everything (of radar *cough*) for that matter.
Either way, laddering me is probably not gonna happen now anymore and I am aware of that. But I just wish players to know what is actually possible at jj2 and what you're dealing with. I also wish to get a discussion going and for someone to finally make whatever program that detects cheating - may if even be a program everybody has to use locally. That said, that'll probably be bypassable too so I might as well not play anything competetive at all anymore.
Enjoy.
Coders perhaps go here instead of reading this spam.
Hi all,
I wish to give you guys some information that may alter the entire jj2 competetive scene.
First, no, and I mean no game which is played at the ladder is trustworthy anymore. Every game may have someone playing with radar and it isn't traceable.
Now players may be wondering why in the world I would state such thing. First of all, [b]I[/b] got my hands on Radar v2 today. I know exactly what is possible now. The levellist this radar version works on: Semi, JE, BBlair, BBswing, silwi, Gauntlet, Epitome, FF, WW, Distopia, super, TCS, DW and Zaitox.
I can test it out with you guys if you want, I dont care. I can give all information by just checking radar basically. I even know everybodies health.
Ah, I also dont need teamchat anymore because I know when my flagcarrier is low and I know when to shout "S" because I can see enemy flagcarrier getting 1. All automatically.
Now I cannot tell how long this has been around already, I just know from a source he's been given a couple of untraceable Radar versions already.
I'll be able to show screenshots and I will be able to give evidence of everything I am stating. You can come visit me at my house and I'll show you everything (of radar *cough*) for that matter.
Either way, laddering me is probably not gonna happen now anymore and I am aware of that. But I just wish players to know what is actually possible at jj2 and what you're dealing with. I also wish to get a discussion going and for someone to finally make whatever program that detects cheating - may if even be a program everybody has to use locally. That said, that'll probably be bypassable too so I might as well not play anything competetive at all anymore.
Enjoy.
Coders perhaps go [url=http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?p=473826#post473826]here[/url] instead of reading this spam.
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Well scripting is a good thing aslong it's being used for good. I don't like if someonre hacks another person or cheats, it's not only annoying but sad and it's also, hard to trace. And this happens quite often I see nowadays, like on school.
"It is amazing what can be accomplished when nobody cares about who gets the credit.” ~Robert Yates
Well scripting is a good thing aslong it's being used for good. I don't like if someonre hacks another person or cheats, it's not only annoying but sad and it's also, hard to trace. And this happens quite often I see nowadays, like on school. :(
I know a solution.
We create a program that you have to install to play ladders.
It will detect all other programs running on that pc at that moment.
If win, the program post it automatically to the site.
amen
prays the lord and Artem (im on his side)
I know a solution.
We create a program that you have to install to play ladders.
It will detect all other programs running on that pc at that moment.
If win, the program post it automatically to the site.
amen
prays the lord and Artem (im on his side)
Since Long ago, I knew that Running JJ2 Exposes my computer indefinitely to Security threats.
It's less Important to me the validity of regular games played than it is the privacy of Community members.
Honstly, what I was getting at in that thread I Started is that each participant of ranked matches may be requiried to Upload Video Logs of their entire Screens.
I believe this may lesson the burden of what would have to be Hack/cheat detection that I can't engineer myself without a Lot of studying documents which are Apparantly unavailable.
Even then, there is the lesson we learn from anti-biotic-resistent diseases, being that "what doesn't kill you Makes you stronger," implying that to ultimaty ensure fair Play would be in Split-Screen Mode while each Player views JJ2 on a Screen One and the Same.
Since Long ago, I knew that Running JJ2 Exposes my computer indefinitely to Security threats.
It's less Important to me the validity of regular games played than it is the privacy of Community members.
Honstly, what I was getting at in that thread I Started is that each participant of ranked matches may be requiried to Upload Video Logs of their entire Screens.
I believe this may lesson the burden of what would have to be Hack/cheat detection that I can't engineer myself without a Lot of studying documents which are Apparantly unavailable.
Even then, there is the lesson we learn from anti-biotic-resistent diseases, being that "what doesn't kill you Makes you stronger," implying that to ultimaty ensure fair Play would be in Split-Screen Mode while each Player views JJ2 on a Screen One and the Same.
I understand Laro, the things getting worse... Don't give up. BTW there's going to be a lot of unfair ladders.
I think we must allow specify members to play, who doesn't use any of cheat or prog and whom we may trust.
INACTIVE
I understand Laro, the things getting worse... Don't give up. BTW there's going to be a lot of unfair ladders.
I think we must allow specify members to play, who doesn't use any of cheat or prog and whom we may trust.
yeah, I mad. Please be so kind to cheer me up by telling me what that "cloud at my rabbit when im 1 or 2" function does :s
Simple, it reminds you that you're low. You get this cloud around you until you're 3 again. It's pretty annoying imo but at least you wont forget you're low h XD. Doubt it matters, you can see everybodies positions anyway and if the C is available. Oh, you can also see the players health so whatever .
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I know a solution.
We create a program that you have to install to play ladders.
It will detect all other programs running on that pc at that moment.
If win, the program post it automatically to the site.
amen
Exactly as what I (and Gry) were thinking.
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Honstly, what I was getting at in that thread I Started is that each participant of ranked matches may be requiried to Upload Video Logs of their entire Screens..
Lol, yep, its a bit difficult to get everyone to do that though
[quote]yeah, I mad. Please be so kind to cheer me up by telling me what that "cloud at my rabbit when im 1 or 2" function does :s[/quote]
Simple, it reminds you that you're low. You get this cloud around you until you're 3 again. It's pretty annoying imo but at least you wont forget you're low h XD. Doubt it matters, you can see everybodies positions anyway and if the C is available. Oh, you can also see the players health so whatever :).
[quote]I know a solution.
We create a program that you have to install to play ladders.
It will detect all other programs running on that pc at that moment.
If win, the program post it automatically to the site.
amen[/quote]
Exactly as what I (and Gry) were thinking.
[quote]Honstly, what I was getting at in that thread I Started is that each participant of ranked matches may be requiried to Upload Video Logs of their entire Screens..[/quote]
Lol, yep, its a bit difficult to get everyone to do that though :D
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Yeah, changing something that'll cost scriptkiddies <1min to update in their code is reeeeaaaally going to help...
Why don't we start with perm-banning everyone we have evidence against, who used this in an official match (ladder/CW)
/rage off
Well, now it has come this far, maybe it IS the best to include a program that must be activated in order to play ladders... However it must include strong encryption, or its protocol will get hacked too.
[quote]...classname and title...[/quote]
Yeah, changing something that'll cost scriptkiddies <1min to update in their code is reeeeaaaally going to help...
Why don't we start with perm-banning everyone we have evidence against, who used this in an official match (ladder/CW)
/rage off
Well, now it has come this far, maybe it IS the best to include a program that must be activated in order to play ladders... However it must include strong encryption, or its protocol will get hacked too.
I think he made it cuz he wanted to do... I think it cuz he cant just chill out, so he wants to take a revenge on JJ2 administration(for stupid reasons)... Probably its a reason...
Yes, Hakum asked i think... My apologies
INACTIVE
I think he made it cuz he wanted to do... I think it cuz he cant just chill out, so he wants to take a revenge on JJ2 administration(for stupid reasons)... Probably its a reason...
Yes, Hakum asked i think... My apologies :D
maybe it IS the best to include a program that must be activated in order to play ladders... However it must include strong encryption, or its protocol will get hacked too.
Agreed! Hands up.
INACTIVE
[quote]maybe it IS the best to include a program that must be activated in order to play ladders... However it must include strong encryption, or its protocol will get hacked too.[/quote]
[size=20]Agreed![/size] Hands up.
[quote]vegito I bet artem pwns you ingame even if you use all cheats we ever made [/quote]
I bet I pwned you both if i used some of the cheats I can make.
But thats not the friggin point here lol...
I think we must allow specify members to play, who doesn't use any of cheat or prog and whom we may trust.
@Harmen
I managed to post almost same idea earlier, so a cake to me too
INACTIVE
[quote]I think we must allow specify members to play, who doesn't use any of cheat or prog and whom we may trust.[/quote]
@Harmen
I managed to post almost same idea earlier, so :D a cake to me too
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