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[quote]It was a money contest. Since $40 for you in UK is nothing hard to add on steam account, and we can't do it in Serbia, I found it somehow satisfied to just win the prize.[/quote] This is pathetic. Not only the thought "I deserve $40 worth in games more than anybody, so I'll have my friends vote for me" literally went through your head, you actually decided it's a good idea and there's nothing wrong with it. [quote]Like you never got help from your friends in such a situation[/quote] No, he didn't, because he's not a corrupt little rat like you. You are, and always have been, a coward, hiding behind fake identities, a cheat, and a liar, and you fully deserve to be bullied until the day you stop playing. You need to have a [FT] tag emblazoned on your forehead with a burning cow marking, and to answer "I got this for thinking I was better and smarter than everyone, and that I'd never done anything wrong and was always unfairly judged" every time someone asks you about it, with pity in their eyes. Because that's what you think, that's what you and your ego obviously must think, you are a pure little angel with 9999 friends and the best player and the best everything ever. You disgust me and it takes literal pain to even bother your idiotic, self-praising drivel with a reply. So at least you got one of your "threats" (LOL) to work.

Did you think that actually justified anything Toni? You disgust me - I don't care for shit about the prize, it bothered me that you got it unjustly. Like I said, close this thread before it gets dirty. I was tempted to write more.

Toni you're quite persistent, now im really getting an unpleasant feeling that i am being completely discredited. I didnt start the FT thing and took a minimum out of a minimum participation in to FT. This comment was written by me but i didnt start the FT drama that followed after it (but due to the comment being its obvious source, you are permitted to say that i had good part in it). It also gets overlooked that i had no intentions of this ending up like this, overlooked that i didnt quite know about it much and that i was the first to stop using it before one of the admins told me to do so. i remember cj kicking and renaming hakum and ahmo repeatedly for wearing the FT tag. All of your comments are implanted in a way to take the worst out of my comments, and leave out the just important parts. I agree with cooba's part that you're way over your head thinking that what you're doing is right. No doubt what my clanmates did was wrong but it still does not justify you repeatedly using the term "idiots". As for the rest of cooba's comment... try to somehow somewhat ignore it. It's his personal about you (for some justified past reasons i believe?) and im quite sure you have a similar opinion about him and replying to him will start this whole thing yet again. You clearly dislike each other so leave it at that.

Ah, lovely, another chance for me to explain things again. [quote="cooba"][quote="Toni"]It was a money contest. Since $40 for you in UK is nothing hard to add on steam account, and we can't do it in Serbia, I found it somehow satisfied to just win the prize.[/quote] This is pathetic. Not only the thought "I deserve $40 worth in games more than anybody, so I'll have my friends vote for me" literally went through your head, you actually decided it's a good idea and there's nothing wrong with it.[/quote] Your response to his words there are completely unjustified and unbalanced, he never admitted to cheating in the contest and that's purely conjecture from you and Rag as far as evidence is concerned. What he was saying is that $40 in games is worth a lot more to him than it is to most other people, which you cannot refute considering the economic and sociological status of Serbia, and that this motivated him to work harder to win first place. Anything about cheating here is solely you attempting to rephrase what he says into something in your favor. [quote="cooba"][quote="Toni"]Like you never got help from your friends in such a situation[/quote] No, he didn't, because he's not a corrupt little rat like you.[/quote] Read above, and perhaps tone your words down lest I decide I want to work with the same methods as you. I'd also like you to keep your pie hole shut about this when I have proof of you being a corrupt little rat as well. [quote="cooba"]You are, and always have been, a coward, hiding behind fake identities, a cheat, and a liar, and you fully deserve to be bullied until the day you stop playing. You need to have a [FT] tag emblazoned on your forehead with a burning cow marking, and to answer "I got this for thinking I was better and smarter than everyone, and that I'd never done anything wrong and was always unfairly judged" every time someone asks you about it, with pity in their eyes. Because that's what you think, that's what you and your ego obviously must think, you are a pure little angel with 9999 friends and the best player and the best everything ever. You disgust me and it takes literal pain to even bother your idiotic, self-praising drivel with a reply. So at least you got one of your "threats" (LOL) to work.[/quote] I'd like you to rethink these words very carefully unless you decide you want to declare war on a group which you cannot win against. [quote="Ragnarok"]Did you think that actually justified anything Toni? You disgust me - I don't care for shit about the prize, it bothered me that you got it unjustly. [/quote] Rag, also note that Toni's exact words are: [quote="Toni"]It's probably not cheating, because all of them saw all levels for the contest (BE SURE OF THAT, AS YOU ARE SURE THAT SEA IS DEEP), and I pleased them to vote, they weren't forced or anything like that. It was their will to do so.[/quote] Rephrased into proper English: "I wasn't cheating because all of the voters saw the other entries in the contest as well (I ain't lyin' bro) and they picked mine of their own will, because they genuinely thought my level was the best." He has never said that he was justifying cheating, or that he was even cheating in the first place. I took a look at the old SS3 voting thread again and I still can't see any traces of why you'd think Toni rigged it, some CC members didn't even vote for Toni. Any patterns you noticed in their voting can also be attributed to your clan, so any arguments about sainthood here are just plain stupid.

[quote="Sean"]I'd also like you to keep your pie hole shut about this when I have proof of you being a corrupt little rat as well.[/quote] Then why are you not posting it? [quote="Sean"]"I wasn't cheating because all of the voters saw the other entries in the contest as well (I ain't lyin' bro) and they picked mine of their own will, because they genuinely thought my level was the best."[/quote] You are an imbecile for believing this for one second. [quote="Sean"]I'd like you to rethink these words very carefully unless you decide you want to declare war on a group which you cannot win against.[/quote] So this "group" thinks it can "win" a "war" against me then? You all are just 14 year olds who think they can threaten a man, who spent 10 years in this community, into leaving. This is more funny than pathetic, I'll give you that, since I'm not going anywhere.

[quote="cooba"]Then why are you not posting it?[/quote] Because unlike you, I understand you still have a measure of dignity you would like to keep and so I am withholding it to preserve that. If you WANT me to provide this proof, I am quite happy to! [quote="cooba"]You are an imbecile for believing this for one second.[/quote] On the contrary, you are an imbecile for attempting to spread conspiracy theories without a shred of evidence. My point with that rephrasal is that you are intentionally misunderstanding his words in order to sound like you hold the moral high ground. [quote="cooba"]So this "group" thinks it can "win" a "war" against me then? You all are just 14 year olds who think they can threaten a man, who spent 10 years in this community, into leaving. This is more funny than pathetic, I'll give you that, since I'm not going anywhere.[/quote] I find it funny you think I'm referring to myself, and that you'd try to read everything I never said into my post. I never said I'm going to be contributing to this "war", I never said they would be pressuring you to leaving, and without any due respect you still haven't made any new points. :)

Am I seeing this right? 5 pages of heated arguing and pointless flaming because of trolling in response to biased votes at a levelmaking contest from over a year ago? So, apparently this is what the community has come to...

Well glados i can tell you didnt read any of this since you'd have known it has nothing to do with the comment. I dont resent you for it, infact im glad atleast you werent retarded enough to lose time for something as silly as this,unlike the rest of us. So this "group" thinks it can "win" a "war" against me then? [quote][quote]You all are just 14 year olds who think they can threaten a man, who spent 10 years in this community, into leaving. This is more funny than pathetic, I'll give you that, since I'm not going anywhere.[/quote] I find it funny you think I'm referring to myself, and that you'd try to read everything I never said into my post. I never said I'm going to be contributing to this "war", I never said they would be pressuring you to leaving, and without any due respect you still haven't made any new points. emo[/quote] Ah lets see.... honestly that was a very stupid thing to say sean... "dont start a war against a group you cant win against". It sounds both pathetic and funny at the same time. Without a doubt you tried to scare cooba to make him shuttup, but i have no idea what in the right mind possessed you to think it would have any effect. I truly dont belive you ACTUALLY meant that because both cooba and this "group" did so much (lets pretend i didnt say sh*t) "wrong" to each other, it is more likely that its never going to end until one finally gets exhausted and decides its enough. A war (exaggeratedly argument) is won when one successfully manages to prove his point and makes the other one shuttup, and you know very well that that will simply not happen, quite the opposite you're all going to circle around the same flaws and mistakes the other one did without ever making a point so it will most likely come down to that "had enough of this part" in which cooba is most likely never gonna wore himself out, and i dont know about the "group" however. This is the thing i was hopelessly trying to prevent, at first i whined becuz i felt injustice of the deleted comment,but after i saw veg and cooba joining here i tried to somehow somewhat end it before it gets to this. This is not how this "joke" was supposed to end up. And thats why i (more than once) told people to let this go and forget about since it would be the smartest thing to do. Ragnarok figured it out too and he told you to lock the thread more than once, you are simply 2 "groups" who completely disagree with each other. In case you didnt notice i apologized for the "misunderstanding"(the content of the comment as i've said was not meant to be offensive, and henceforth i have no obligation to apologize for that) and all of you ignored it completely. Wasnt this thread about the comment?if so then my apology comment should have been the last one and yet this is still going on fierce. Its a proof that this is not about the comment but something much more. Lock the thread and solve it somewhere else, becuz the rest has nothing to do with me and my comment. while i took a small part into FT, i took no part into insulting toni directly.

[quote="King"]Without a doubt you tried to scare cooba to make him shuttup, but i have no idea what in the right mind possessed you to think it would have any effect.[/quote] You're right, I didn't actually think it would work, but then again you're operating on the belief I'm trying to make cooba shut up in the first place. I don't think that's ever going to happen, but I'm simply being courteous and giving him a warning anyway. [quote="King"]cooba is most likely never gonna wore himself out[/quote] He won't ever need to either, it's as simple as that. [quote="King"]In case you didnt notice i apologized for the "misunderstanding"(the content of the comment as i've said was not meant to be offensive, and henceforth i have no obligation to apologize for that) and all of you ignored it completely. Wasnt this thread about the comment?if so then my apology comment should have been the last one and yet this is still going on fierce. Its a proof that this is not about the comment but something much more. Lock the thread and solve it somewhere else, becuz the rest has nothing to do with me and my comment. while i took a small part into FT, i took no part into insulting toni directly.[/quote] I've noticed already, and I've already forgiven you for that. That being said, this thread has clearly gone far off the comment, so I wouldn't pin it entirely on the original happenings either. This was bound to happen sooner or later anyway.

I read it, and I am seeing lots of accusations, insults and flaming, especially later on in the thread. Nothing is being resolved, I just see people getting upset and pointing fingers at each other, talking to others like they're the scum of the earth for things that happened in the past.

[quote="King"]As for the rest of cooba's comment... try to somehow somewhat ignore it. It's his personal about you (for some justified past reasons i believe?) and im quite sure you have a similar opinion about him and replying to him will start this whole thing yet again. You clearly dislike each other so leave it at that.[/quote] Trying to ignore his posts as much as I can. Isn't hard, since every his posts looks similar to the previous ones. [quote="Sean"]Toni said: I wasn't cheating because all of the voters saw the other entries in the contest as well (I ain't lyin' bro) and they picked mine of their own will, because they genuinely thought my level was the best.[/quote] Exactly. [quote="cooba"]You are an imbecile for believing this for one second.[/quote] Prove that I lie or shut up. Ask everyone who voted for me: - did they see all levels - were they asked to join my server, and did I show them all levels (someone who I know saw levels, like Anubis and Lithium, can't remember who else voted weren't invited) - did I force them to vote for me, or did I gave them anything like money or whatever else. Maybe I forgot what else is important to ask, but ask anything you like. I stand behind anything I did, and I consider it's not a cheating. Again, we're going back to past, what is really funny, since we said it's not good to look for past happenings. You should have said it before plunk gave me games on steam. And he was so friendly and nice that he gave me $5 more than I deserved. [quote="King"]This comment was written by me but i didnt start the FT drama that followed after it (but due to the comment being its obvious source, you are permitted to say that i had good part in it). It also gets overlooked that i had no intentions of this ending up like this, overlooked that i didnt quite know about it much and that i was the first to stop using it before one of the admins told me to do so. i remember cj kicking and renaming hakum and ahmo repeatedly for wearing the FT tag. All of your comments are implanted in a way to take the worst out of my comments, and leave out the just important parts.[/quote] Considering your past behaviour (arguings with Veg, and other things like flamewars etc), and your comment yesterday or 2 days ago that you like to troll and make fun of others, I maybe overreacted with my post. I really didn't believe that you were innocent. Now when people told me that you weren't wearing it for a long time, and that you weren't trolling me as I thought you did, I have to apologize to you! [quote="GLaDOS"]I read it, and I am seeing lots of accusations, insults and flaming, especially later on in the thread. Nothing is being resolved, I just see people getting upset and pointing fingers at each other, talking to others like they're the scum of the earth for things that happened in the past.[/quote] GLaDOS, you know that by now that I have high positive opinion about you! This is nothing personal, but please try not to read this if you don't want. I wouldn't maybe read everything if this wasn't about me, but someone else. I really want to see peoples real faces, and try to resolve anything what is wrong here.

[quote="GLaDOS"]I just see people getting upset and pointing fingers at each other, talking to others like they're the scum of the earth for things that happened in the past.[/quote] Oh but when things that happened in the past are a fairly just basis to consider somebody the scum of the earth. I'd say the only condition on which in judgement past actions shouldn't be considered equal to present ones is regret. When there are no signs of that, I believe you can safely assume nothing has changed and in the same conditions the person in question would do the same deeds again. With no relation to the actual topic whatsoever.

[quote]Considering your past behaviour (arguings with Veg, and other things like flamewars etc), and your comment yesterday or 2 days ago that you like to troll and make fun of others, I maybe overreacted with my post. I really didn't believe that you were innocent. Now when people told me that you weren't wearing it for a long time, and that you weren't trolling me as I thought you did, I have to apologize to you![/quote] This being said, there's absolutely no reason to keep this thread unlocked.This thread was about me and toni and that issue seems to have been resolved. If you feel to have a lack of intelligence to continue this, then make a new thread and leave me out of it. If i get included for any kind of flowers, i will personally ask admins to delete it whether its true or false. But my personal opinion is that you keep your mouths firmly and nicely closed since you're never gonna resolve this and this one goes to everyone.

Well what do you know. The thread turned sour again. Ragnarok, cooba or Toni can feel free to contact an admin/mod for unlocking if they want to continue their ..conversation (or start a new thread about that map contest or w/e), since they're the only ones who don't seem entirely done talking. (locked)