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Go to2020-03-22A new balance proposal After my long-arse hiatus from online play, I'm gonna see about improving this mutator. I didn't see these comments at the time, so my bad. Some ideas:

1. Decrease Loris falling copter speed a tiny bit.
2. Add some unorthodox stuff, like being able to use melee in midair by holding on the up button and/or a movement option that allows you to strafe backwards like doublejump, minus the height bonus. Not 100% sure about this since players will probably be completely unaware until they are told. It would get around the limited utility of uppercut though.
3. The way copter ears are programmed leads me to believe you can't really "cancel momentum" with it, but you can increase the X-axis, thus increasing the turning speed. Try out the top-right corner in pluscharjump, one of the levels included with plus.

Going the charbalanceHJ route (higher base jump instead of small doublejumo+copter) seems more likely at this point, even though I'm not a fan of it.

Also uh;

"2: the mod where loris flying must must be kept up by clicking jump all the time; the animation on this is ugly, the movement is irksomehaving to press jump so much is not nice, but i see why this is done, ive often had the problem of clicking jump thus flying and so im caught in a bad spot and die because i made the mistake of flying when i should not. this mod would solve the problem, but if u have this problem u need to play better, learn when not to fly, flying with minimal clicks is what makes jazz/lori diffrent and great, perhaps i would even play better with this mod, i still dont like it."

Whatever you used, that has never been part of charbalance. You've only ever had to hold on jump to keep using copter ears. Either way, I am not adding ascending copter ears because they work incredibly poorly with one ways and vines.
Go to2019-12-19A new balance proposal @rag: spaz meelee move is not so special jazz and lori have great moves too.2; spaz is able to cancel momentium and reverse derection complitly with the dubble jump, this is why most play as spaz and the only reason.3;being better at rfbouncig etc is not a big deal jazz/lori can do this to u only need to learn it the gap is not so wide as to mean anything. all this talk about how great spaz is is nice but jazz/lori can do something spaz can never ever do; they can fly, which is they fall at a super slow rate while still have lateral movement possibility.

the three balllance mods ive played: the mod where jazz/lori have a double jump and then after you used your doubble jump then u can fly is simply horrid, if yer going to make everyone a spaz go all the way and just eliminate jazz/lori, if i wanted to play as a spaz i would play as a spaz, this is not so difficult people.
2: the mod where loris flying must must be kept up by clicking jump all the time; the animation on this is ugly, the movement is irksomehaving to press jump so much is not nice, but i see why this is done, ive often had the problem of clicking jump thus flying and so im caught in a bad spot and die because i made the mistake of flying when i should not. this mod would solve the problem, but if u have this problem u need to play better, learn when not to fly, flying with minimal clicks is what makes jazz/lori diffrent and great, perhaps i would even play better with this mod, i still dont like it.
3: where lori/jazz normal jump is a little bit higher, i think i played this but im really not sure, its not very noticable, ive often missed jumps barely, i would make the jumps with this and it would be even less noticeable, i wouldn't make a jump if i know id miss it so i wouldn't notice when i didn't miss.

i like to play as something different then anyone else, people think lori/jazz so much inferior to spaz when the differences arent so great, lori has great moves, the reason i havn't pawned with it is not because lori sucks, but im not that good, i once dueled jety as a spaz when she played as lori, i still lost 10-1. i havnt fully learned how to play as lori.

Go to2019-11-20A new balance proposal Just thought I'd share my two pieces on what copter characters need.

While I like the idea of what's done in this mut for Jazz in particular (I am unable to test Lori), I'm afraid both characters would still feel inferior to Spaz for a few reasons;
- Spaz has a long-ranged and useful melee move, whilst Jazz's is very hard to land unless levels are designed to allow it. Lori's is good, but is still subject to design I'd say.
- Spaz is able to jump out of tricky situations and almost cancel his momentum with his double jump, something Jazz/Lori could NEVER do.
- Spaz is much more versatile at RF bouncing off walls, or even RF climbing.

What I would propose is needed is to actually find unique ways to overpower Jazz/Lori. Particularly, what I would like to see is some emphasis on improving the copter ears to do the following:
- Keep changes with regards to the copter-ears being able to be turned off at will/not bug out on the floor/vines.
- Remove momentum whilst copter-earing, and allow the ability to turn in midair without having to slow down completely.

Other things I would suggest are to make the uppercut actually shoot higher than a Spaz-double jump. It's a unique move, why not make it feel like one? You can argue that the uppercut being able to reach Spaz max double jump height is very strong, but in reality it's really not as good unless you're in a vertical situation, which is why this mut tailors to that a little bit by allowing slight diagonal shots. However, I find that it's still a lot of effort to slow down completely and duck and uppercut in the right spot, as opposed to just double jump and fire an RF as Spaz.

Another idea would be to allow characters to have an upward trajectory from RFs while initiating (first 0.5s?) copter ears for the first time in their jump, although I bet that's gonna feel a bit weird.

My point is that I think it's important that we're not afraid of breaking balance with something like this, as Spaz is always gonna feel vastly superior. I'd like to see Jazz/Lori have significantly unique gimmicks, that don't rely on level design entirely to make them feel more useful. Then tweak as appropriate emo!
Go to2019-10-22A new balance proposal Here it is, a long overdue update. Better late than never.

Download here: https://ufile.io/tpjd8mq4

The copter ear nerf has been reverted. I have also provided two versions (charbalance and charbalanceHJ) - one with high-jump instead of doublejump. While I prefer the former, the only active Lori player is Parrot Fish and they don't like double jump so I'd figure to sell out. I dislike how it feels, but ascending copter ears feel even worse. I'll let the committee decide what they prefer. When a clear decision has been made, I'll probably upload this to J2O, as I'm hoping somewhere down the line that these will get used outside of competitive JJ2.

Unless anyone gives better ideas, these are the set in stone final versions.
Go to2019-04-13A new balance proposal Now that the bash is over, I'll come back to this and start testing it more. No rush though, as I don't imagine this to be applied in the middle of the season.

I'll revert the copter ear nerfs for Lori in the next version, but I want to see what else could possibly be tweaked before I push out v3.
Go to2019-04-07A new balance proposal I support this, but I'm a bit unsure whether it's a good idea to force the balance change mid-season without asking each clan's opinion first. Otherwise I would enable it at the start of the next season though.
Go to2019-04-05A new balance proposal I kind of liked this until it was decided to increase Lori's copter ear falling speed. I feel like it takes away one of the reasons for Lori users to play as Lori in the first place.

At least the handling for the copter move is sort of better now, but due to Lori's new handicap, I don't think it's overall enough.
Go to2019-04-04A new balance proposal Since there were no further replies, I suggest we implement this as it fixes the copter bugs too then. emo
Go to2019-03-30A new balance proposal Would anyone care to do some testing on this?

(CJ I'm lookin at you!) emo
Go to2019-03-21A new balance proposal I don't normally double post so soon, but there's a major update! Here's the changelog;

Lori
- double jump speed changed from 6 to 6.6
- copter ear falling speed changed from 1.25 to 1.5

The doublejump felt too awkward, so it was buffed slightly. You can reach more areas now, but still not as many as Spaz can (which is a fair given!). As a compensation, copter ears fall slightly faster now, making her special jump truly the jack of all trades. I'm considering reverting the latter.


Jazz
- copter ear falling speed changed from 1 to 0.75
- uppercut can be cancelled by pressing fire
- uppercut can be slightly controlled with horizontal arrow keys

I went against making Jazzes uppercut higher as I believe it to be better than double-jump in some cases (no need to gather momentum, makes a ton of RF jumps/climbs easier and you can even reach some areas Spaz normally can't with doublejump), but I added some quality of life changes for better flow.

I'll be giving this a longer testing period. Until then...

Download here: http://www.filedropper.com/charbalance_2
Go to2019-03-20A new balance proposal Judging by feedback in-game, the changes are good - but aren't enough.

The difficult part to please is that some say Lori is too weak, while others say the same about Jazz. So I'll see about buffing both of their jumps slightly. However, I really do not want to buff them anymore after that.
Go to2019-03-19A new balance proposal I, as you said, didn't try the changes but watching the vid I'd also say it wouldn't make Lori immediately overpowered.
The difference for Lori players will be big, Spaz players will stick to Spaz probably anyway.
Go to2019-03-19A new balance proposal If anything I'm in full support of it then.

Would still like if Jazz could uppercut higher tho. emo

Edit: also it looks as thought Trey also fixed the copter bug, even more support. Better uppercut tho pls.
Go to2019-03-19A new balance proposal
Ragnarok wrote:
-snip-


The height nerf feels far more like 50%, since double jump works by increasing the strength of vertical speed, rather than adding a fixed height to your jump. You can feel this by halving the height number in pluscharjump.j2l, as it makes double jump become hilariously tiny instead.

In a nutshell: The double jump is weaker by 25% in terms of vertical speed, but is less higher by 50%.

Violet (and pretty much all of us) are aware of the annoying copter ears bug. I have asked about it though. It's hard to fix (a lot of lines), however. Had it been easy(er), it would've been done by now.

Judging by the amount of meme votes, it's a better idea to simply put the changes into practice and then see what people think. After all, nobody really cares for changes until it personally affects them. <:^)

For those who don't have TSF, here's a half-baked demonstration video in a couple of levels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieb-DicSvh0

If anything..it feels a tad bit weak.
Go to2019-03-19A new balance proposal I'm all for rabbit inclusion, but since I don't have TSF it's pretty hard for me to test this;

But based on testing a few jumps with spaz/jazz:

Regular jump = ~4 tiles
Running jump = ~7 tiles
Regular double jump = ~6 tiles
Running double jump / Uppercut mut = ~9 tiles
Lori's new double jump = ~5.5 tiles?
Lori's new running double jump = ~8.5 tiles?

And then applying this to a few of the popular levels, I can see significant differences to all of the below:
• Ancient Museum (Full NRG and RF climb)
• The Astrolabe (vines and the powerups)
• Bloodbunny’s Lair (mostly the left Full NRG and bottom area)
• City of the Snooze (better movement over windowsills)
• Diamondus Warzone (everywhere)
• Distopia (particularly around the seek PU)
• Epitome (everywhere)
• Facing Worlds (particularly around the Full NRG and just above the base)
• Gauntlet (everywhere, Lori is unplayable here)
• Hall of the Mountain King (probably v helpful but I think it’s not enough to warrant not being Spaz here)
• Happy Semiconductor CTF (nearly everywhere)
• Swingin’ Jazz (probably mostly around the middle area)
• Trigelateral v3 (probably nearly everywhere, this isn’t very Lori friendly)
• Wicked Wood (nearly everywhere)

She’d probably need testing in levels with these changes to see if it’s viable at all, but I’m inclined to say it’s a touch on the stronger end (although would need testing in mappool levels - I'm happy to advise if someone actually wants to do this with me), and might see Spaz' sidekick becoming obsolete (as well as Jazz' uppercut - give it an extra tile?), in which case I’d probably nerf the double jump to ~50-37.5% instead, still giving a considerable extra height of 1-1.25 whopping tiles. Additionally, she does still have small tricks in BBSwing/JE/Semi/Trig to go through walls, but afaik it’s limited to those levels?

I like the change to copter ears switching off easier, and the idea of faster descent sounds like it definitely has its place in JJ2.

However I think the MAJOR issue with why copter characters aren’t seeing any play (at least I’m not playing Jazz for this reason) is that they’re buggy; copter earing too near the floor removes your ability to jump for a few seconds, and copter earing onto vines removes your ability to jump altogether (which the current mappool has 50% (~11/22?) maps containing vines). This behaviour on the ground isn’t very consistent but it often happens when you particularly need it, and is therefore very punishing in competitive play. (Yes I reported this before, and I don’t remember it happening in Vanilla JJ2, correct me if I’m wrong).
Go to2019-03-19A new balance proposal TL;DR:
EDIT: Download V3 here: https://ufile.io/tpjd8mq4
Thanks to PurpleJazz (and SE) for scripting them!

What's in the mutator (V1):
- Lori now has a double jump, that is 25% less stronger than Spazzes
- Lori's copter ears now descend slightly faster
- Jazzes already accepted uppercut buffs.
- Copter ears now switch off when you hold off the jump button

V2 CHANGELOG:

Lori
- double jump speed changed from 6 to 6.6 (now 17.5% less stronger instead of 25% less stronger)
- copter ear falling speed changed from 1.25 to 1.5

The doublejump felt too awkward, so it was buffed slightly. You can reach more areas now, but still not as many as Spaz can (which is a fair given!). As a compensation, copter ears fall slightly faster now, making her special jump truly the jack of all trades. I'm considering reverting the latter.


Jazz
- copter ear falling speed changed from 1 to 0.75
- uppercut can be cancelled by pressing fire
- uppercut can be slightly controlled with horizontal arrow keys

The reasoning: Lori has been getting the short end of the stick for a long time, being virtually unplayable in quite a few mappool levels, but still having some neat tricks despite that. Players have tried to figure out a solution that feels right for a long while. Many others have proposed simply making her jump higher, which goes against the spirit of JJ2 character mechanics. Originally, I envisioned ascending copter ears, but they have annoying technical issues with vines and one-ways. So I found a compromise - what if her special jump became the jack of all trades instead?

V3 CHANGELOG:

- The copter ear nerf has been reverted to 1.25
- I have also provided two versions (charbalance and charbalanceHJ) - one with high-jump instead of doublejump. While I prefer the former, the only active Lori player is Parrot Fish and they don't like double jump so I'd figure to sell out. I dislike how it feels, but ascending copter ears feel even worse. I'll let the committee decide what they prefer.

When a clear decision has been made, I'll probably upload this to J2O, as I'm hoping somewhere down the line that these will get used outside of competitive JJ2.


Also, be sure to test out the changes before commenting. Spaz is still the best in most maps, even with these buffs. Her vertical jump height is still technically the lowest among the changes, it's just much more bearable now.

Think something needs tweaking or (god forbid) that she needs no change at all? Let me know!
Go to2016-07-27Vanilla JJ2 can't view the serverlist anymore I've been trying to call them on the phone, but no luck reaching them so far. I think the phone number listed for the domain admin isn't actively monitored.
Go to2016-07-26Vanilla JJ2 can't view the serverlist anymore Soo... Did someone contact the domain owner? I really hope this gets solved...Or no more new players. emo
Go to2016-07-21Vanilla JJ2 can't view the serverlist anymore We contacted him already, what we have to do is to contact the current domain owner to set a redirect for us.
Go to2016-07-21Vanilla JJ2 can't view the serverlist anymore How do I contact Nimrod? I wouldn't think he goes on JCF much and not JJ.net at all.
Go to2016-07-17Vanilla JJ2 can't view the serverlist anymore Some one else bought the domain when it was expired
Go to2016-07-17Vanilla JJ2 can't view the serverlist anymore
Quote:
Who should I tell about this?

Nimrod AFAIK
Go to2016-07-17Vanilla JJ2 can't view the serverlist anymore Because list.jazzjackrabbit.com is expired which used to redirect to one of the serverlists.
Go to2016-07-17Vanilla JJ2 can't view the serverlist anymore This is baaad for newcomers. The only way you can fix it is to go into a hex editor and change list.jazzjackrabbit.com to list1.digiex.net (or use plus), but the everyday person is not going to know or even think of trying this. They're just gonna think the online community is completely dead and not try again.

Who should I tell about this?
Go to2016-07-08 What just happened?!? Banning broke? I got the same problem I swear.
I was suggesting something on bugs and suggestions, and when i finished my post, poof! I was banned and 'i should feel bad (or feel banned, w/e)'
This happened like 3 minutes ago.
Go to2016-07-06JJ2 discord group Great idea, it's good to have a live chat for JJ2 players! emo
Go to2016-07-05So, I'm looking for.. You could re-upload it to youtube?
Go to2016-07-05So, I'm looking for.. found it. how should i send it to u?
Go to2016-07-05So, I'm looking for.. hold on i got that video somewhere. i remember i downloaded it back then.
Go to2016-07-05So, I'm looking for.. Thanks for the video link. However, I am not looking for screenshots. Also yeah, seems some video clips were removed. Rip.
Go to2016-07-05So, I'm looking for.. At least the screens are still there:

http://jazzjackrabbit.net/index.php?league=1&season=1&op=descr&id=630
Go to2016-07-05So, I'm looking for.. we played the CW on distopia against NF. the video is not available anymore in jj2tv
Go to2016-07-05So, I'm looking for.. Here's one. First ten minutes of aEs vs NF, probably not the best performance by neither of us, but oh well :p

Go to2016-07-05So, I'm looking for.. JJ2 videos that featured me playing. I'm especially looking for a clanwar one, where I was playing in Distopia with Kev, but I'm struggling to find it. I think it had no sound. Anyone know where it is? I've tried searching many times, but to no avail.

Here's the playlist so far: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOLvgiz0ic1ZU4uZDvvtmdF45xnbkQK3k
Warning: Old videos are of potato quality. But they are of historic importance to me.

Please note, it does not include videos of me simply being/spectating in a server, chatting. It has to actually show me playing in action. That's why part 1 of the bash recording is not included.
Go to2016-06-28JJ2 discord group Member cleanup done. Got rid of duplicate accounts too.

Be sure to check the recently added rules, too.
Go to2016-06-17JJ2 discord group I'm usually kind of busy and therefore not that talkative while I'm online, but you'll see me rambling in this group every now and then.

And while speedrunning isn't something I'd do myself, I'm definitely interested seeing others find strategies and discuss the reasons behind them.

Also, if a NT or 'fantasy' tournament is happening, this Discord group will be a great way to plan and announce live stuff. emo
Go to2016-06-17JJ2 discord group Ok, I am getting tired of the duplicate accounts, so here's to stop that from happening;

1. Go https://discordapp.com/ then click Open discord
2. It will either log you in automatically, or you will need to use your login info.
3. When you have, please tell me what is the duplicate account.

I will also be kicking roleless members (people I don't know) who haven't been on in a week.
Go to2016-06-06JJ2 discord group Didn't notice it before. I am glad that discord is being supported now. Its much better than skype and irc.
Go to2016-05-20JJ2 discord group I support this idea
Go to2016-05-20JJ2 discord group Chat almost as ded as the clanladder itself. But I'm still active anyway...so is Slaz, every now and then. Listen to me ramble about JJ2 speedrunning (it's finally happening!).

Amazingly, you can kill the self fullfilling prophecy by actually chatting instead of leaving because its inactive. I'm around very often.
Go to2016-04-18JJ2 discord group This group is made with casual players, JCSers and competitive players in mind. There are four team voice channels and some separate text channels.

What's wrong with IRC and Skype?
IRC is pretty outdated (also no avatars :c). Skype is alright in some circumstances, but can result in chaos. No installation is required here - you can join via browser!

Do I need a microphone?
Not at all. Voicechat is completely optional.

What's the point of this?
To bring the community together in a more convenient manner. No more constantly asking for skype contact info, and an easier way to see who's around.

Instant join link: https://discord.gg/0xKCCgllnBds7Z2o

I'll be away for a week, but there's other mods/admins around, so no worries.
Go to2015-12-06Ground force get together Video footage here!
Go to2015-12-05Ground force get together i'll try to participate as a spectator
Go to2015-12-05Ground force get together I'll be there :-)
Go to2015-12-05Ground force get together Just to let others know what this is about: LINK!
Go to2015-12-05Ground force get together If you use JCF, ignore this. Just posting this for those who only use JJ.net for some reason.

Is starting tomorrow, 7:15pm (UTC/GMT). It'll feature the survivor pack and script.
Go to2015-10-28Staying logged in poll I remember staying logged in, but that was like 4 or 5 years ago. Just for the sake of it, I tried logging in with the "Remember" checkbox checked, but it doesn't work. Tested it on Edge and Google Chrome.
Go to2015-10-26Staying logged in poll I have just found out that whenever it tries to automatically log me in (using cookies, of course) I see "Name or password is incorrect." in the login box.
What I did was:

1. I check the remember box and login
2. I close the website
3. I come back in an hour or more
4. I see "Name or password is incorrect."
5. I refresh the page
6. The error message is gone
Go to2015-10-26Staying logged in poll The cookies don't work for me either. But I really don't consider it as a big deal. You can easily login to make a post anyway.
Go to2015-10-26Staying logged in poll Cookies used to work for me in the past but it seems like they don't anymore. Strange.
Tried this yesterday, I've checked the remember box, opened the website now and I'm not logged in.
One thing that had changed is my password. Dunno if that's related to the problem.
Go to2015-10-26Staying logged in poll The remains of desperate attempts to fix the session cookies on the client side can be seen in the HTML source of jazzjackrabbit.net. Looking at the placement of the relevant <script> tags reveals that the current session system was hacked on top of KMLeague without too much of a code integration effort.

However, the client-side code actually appears to be functional and JJ.net's session cookies are stored for 1 year (at least on my end), so technically, the cookies are retained. If logout problems occur (I'm probably not using this site enough to notice them), they can be attributed to the part of JJ.net's server side code that is responsible for processing the cookies.
Go to2015-10-26Staying logged in poll What it says on the tin. Does JJ.net retain your cookies? Is zepect the only user where cookies are actually retained for him?

Also put browser you use to prove my point that it's likely not a browser issue.

And by retaining I mean not getting logged out in the next 10 minutes.
Go to2015-10-18So yeah okay then ^^. I wasn't even trying to be rude. you have seemed to be the one taking it too serious, but if you say that you're not, then it's okay!
Go to2015-10-18So yeah I did no such thing. No need to be rude. You seem to be taking this whole thread way too personally.
Go to2015-10-18So yeah learn to take a joke and understand sarcasm instead of calling me an asshole and taking offence
Go to2015-10-17So yeah In general case, the major difference between a server named "somebody's breast enlargement" and one named "somebody's official server" is that the former is parody whereas the latter is impersonation and, depending on content, a slander. A joke is harmless when its subject doesn't experience any negative effects from it being told. If listeners misunderstand its nature and perceive parody as truth, it easily becomes harmful. This server, regardless of intent, appears to have had high potential to inequitably damage TreyLina's reputation, which is why she did only as much as come here and clarify it is not in fact her server, because she found that confusing it for one could do her harm.

On a side note, being an asshole to everybody is a poor excuse for being an asshole to a unit.
Go to2015-10-17So yeah Treya, I think you need to learn to laugh at yourself. Life is too short to be serious about everything. I myself ridicule everyone that way, including me and you (and you've been weirdly lucky enough to join my server when it was all about you), because I think it's mandatory to understand that by learning to ridicule ourselves we take a step further in our lives as we see ourselves more clearly than before, we don't get offended no more. If you investigate this issue further, you'll find out that I have deliberately made that for fun purposes (as I also have made such levels about my other friends and colleagues) by naming the script immature.j2as. That's right, you have it right in your cache folder. Surprisingly, Kyro didn't get offended by me hosting "kyro's breast enlargement" (that's right, I've also hosted "Camel Breast Enlargement", but there was Kyro's too, with a mutator dedicated to the enlargement!), nor did other peoppe whom my server was dedicated to at that moment. There was also a level with text meant to ridicule many other JJ2 players, just for fun. And so I think you've gone too serious here. And if it's still unclear, then no, I don't hate you, I think you're a good person who actually does contribute to this community and makes it better in one way or another. Regarding the Skype group, I've added all of my contacts there, as I've told you earlier when you were in my server.
Go to2015-10-16So yeah neat
Go to2015-10-11So yeah Eh, chances are he's probably just trolling. Trolls don't really care about the other person (not caring does not equal hate), they just attempt to annoy others to get a reaction out of them.
Go to2015-10-11So yeah I hate it when people Do things like that. no matter how hillarious i think it Sounds. its normal if ya hate someone/something, but i think this is a bit too immature way of showing it.
Go to2015-10-11So yeah Do you know anything about camel breast enlargement?

It may seem off-topic, but it's not. That was zepect's server last time I saw him hosting.
Go to2015-10-10So yeah If you see a server named "TreyLina's official server" or something like that with a hyperbolic mutator, it's fake. It's either just Zepect trying to annoy me like it's still 2010, or getting salty over me removing him on skype (so he could stop re-adding me to a spam group I couldn't care less about. I have actual entertaining ways to spend my time, thanks).

Funny thing is, 97% of those who join my server are male.

Well, there's your mundane reaction. Not worth the effort to be annoyed over.

INB4 someone derails the thread about Lori as an attempt to annoy me. I know you all too well.
Go to2015-05-17 What just happened?!? Banning broke? Thanks for bringing this to our attention again!
Go to2015-05-17 What just happened?!? Banning broke? Cookies have been screwed up for me on this site for a long time. And it's not just me. That cookies expire far quicker than they should (yes, far earlier than what my browser says it should), resulting in me having to log back in constantly. It's very annoying.
Go to2015-05-17 What just happened?!? Banning broke? Treya, most likely the cookie from your browser history expired, resulting in being logged out. This resulted in a 'ban' for trying to post with no account credentials. The cookie may have expired, if, perchance, a nearby earthquake dislodged your hard drive from your computer, or something. Regardless, that's only speculative - there are other reasons why your cookie may have expired.
Go to2015-05-17 What just happened?!? Banning broke? Most likely a bug; I don't think your original post made it to the site for whatever reason. Waiting for Gry or someone to confirm.
Go to2015-05-17 What just happened?!? Banning broke? Ok, this is more of a bug report..

I had made a post on jj.net forums. Immediately when I tried to post it, it said I was banned from making posts on this forum, in big red text. Got auto-logged out.

I thought I was banned for saying cock-up (in referring that I messed up on something) but apparently not. I re-logged in...I could still post.

So does banning even work? Or did some mod stealth ban me and unban me? What did I do wrong? Or was there just a hiccup?
Go to2013-12-05Poll: Producer or Consumer? I choose to ##CC.

For what reason? Well let's figure that in order to either produce or consume - both of which are good - it's necessary to just randomly vote in a poll at this time.

At this time, being completely casual seems like a good way to both produce and consume. Complete causality produces and a complete casual consumes.

I make levels, play games, learn music, draw art, write fanfics, tell stories, rap names, from JJ2. So I obviously both produce and consume. =) Biologically, I think that I am both.
Go to2013-10-19Poll: Producer or Consumer? Having problems with a specific tsundere, I should have said :p Might have to meet up with her or other qualified people to solve the problem :p
Go to2013-10-19Poll: Producer or Consumer?
Lithium wrote:
having some tsundere problems lately :p


Explain?

Also this seems like a great idea. An 'unofficial' meeting, just for people who want to have some fun in other gamemodes. If the camels won't/can't host it, I might be able to set up a semi-dedicated server and make lith/gry/rabb/someone else admin of it.
Go to2013-10-19Poll: Producer or Consumer?
RabidRabb wrote:
So, how about Today at 7pm, to gather somewhere and play? (JaikBreak would be great, I love JailBreak)

EDIT: Maybe it could be shown somewhere like at J2O or here in the news, so that some people would get the info (btw if someone would like this too, could you help me, to let it happen?)


Put up a new thread, I'll frontpage it if needed.

I would like to participate, though I'm not sure if I can, having some tsundere problems lately :p
Go to2013-10-19Poll: Producer or Consumer? Allright true. Also, the scoring for such events would be very difficult.
Actually I just want to play something else than CTF and I do believe that there are people who'd like that too. So the working idea would be if there would be an arranged time, every week like Saturday 7:00pm when some people gather to play something from the lots of gamemodes we have, as a matter of fact.

So, how about Today at 7pm, to gather somewhere and play? (JaikBreak would be great, I love JailBreak)

EDIT: Maybe it could be shown somewhere like at J2O or here in the news, so that some people would get the info (btw if someone would like this too, could you help me, to let it happen?)
Go to2013-10-19Poll: Producer or Consumer? ^ hahahaha
Go to2013-10-19Poll: Producer or Consumer?
wKtK wrote:
and it'll all turn out to be yet another 'conspiracy' of gry in order to help camels conquer the world.


This just wins
Go to2013-10-19Poll: Producer or Consumer? Sounds like a fun idea, though I'm sure there'll be enough people who'd have some to whine about. After all, we shouldn't mistake a 'rush-ctf-as-fast-as-you-can' ladder for a 'lets-have-fun-in-a-game' ladder. At the end, it won't work, something negative will happen, people will flame, and it'll all turn out to be yet another 'conspiracy' of gry in order to help camels conquer the world.

First meeting jailbreak?

EDIT: and as Splat said, there is already a ladder for that though I doubt anyone plays there...
Go to2013-10-19Poll: Producer or Consumer? http://jazzjackrabbit.net/index.php?league=6&season=1
Go to2013-10-18Poll: Producer or Consumer? Oh hey wait, what if we arranged meetings on every weekend to play other gamemodes, it would be so nice, we have so many gamemodes to play!
Oh and what if clans would get points for them in the ladder so it would encourage people to participate!!!
So maybe producer people would get some respect : ) dat would be so cool.
Go to2013-10-18Poll: Producer or Consumer? Even casual? emo
Go to2013-10-18Poll: Producer or Consumer? Superjazz fits all categories
Go to2013-10-15Poll: Producer or Consumer? Of course they look at the demand of target groups, not individuals.
Go to2013-10-15Poll: Producer or Consumer? Yeah, but my point is that it's mostly the same thing in the real-world economy. You get a few options to pick between, and in many cases none of them are particularly appealing. You go to the supermarket and pick between different kinds of toothpaste, but very rarely do you contact a toothpaste producer, tell him exactly what you want and then get it.

Same thing in existing democratic systems: you pick between parties or you pick between yes and no
Go to2013-10-15Poll: Producer or Consumer? Gry, you like games. Imagine I let you vote between a jumping rope, marbles and toy cars. Wouldn't make you very happy I think. Thats why I agree with you that next time clans should bring forward new maps again just like before. They are probably gonna pick the same maps that got voted out the previous season, but well that seems to be what they want, the few players who do enjoy learning and playing new maps shall have to do so in a non ladder related way.
Go to2013-10-15Poll: Producer or Consumer?
MasterSven wrote:
I am a consumer, but I do play any decent level. In the real world producers produce according to the consumers demand. Here producers make some things and let us vote on it, seems very democratic, but it isnt. emo

Urbs, will you take this one pls?
Go to2013-10-15Poll: Producer or Consumer?
MS wrote:
Here producers make some things and let us vote on it, seems very democratic, but it isnt.


That method could work to poll consumer demand, the biggest problems in this community being the speed (kinda slow feedback, not continuous) and amount (3 judges, 5? clans) of feedback...

Then again, we can't go kidnap levelmakers and order them to make this and that map exactly... or can we?
Go to2013-10-15Poll: Producer or Consumer? I am a consumer, but I do play any decent level. In the real world producers produce according to the consumers demand. Here producers make some things and let us vote on it, seems very democratic, but it isnt. emo
Go to2013-10-15Poll: Producer or Consumer? Both, but way too inactive emo
Go to2013-10-15Poll: Producer or Consumer? I consider myself something between a competative and casual player. As a level/script maker the stuff I produce is more for fun than for serious play. Also I like to play different gamemodes like in JDC events or competative tb, last but not least I like to play different maps more than the same level over and over.
Go to2013-10-15Poll: Producer or Consumer? Yay, I am a rare kind emo
Go to2013-10-15Poll: Producer or Consumer? I'll throw some meanings. Since this is a clan ladder site, I'd expect most to be consumers, so I'll post this on J2O too, for the other portion of the community.


Producer: Usually a levelmaker. Also can be a programmer. Sometimes a tileset maker, though those are rare these days.

Consumer; Usually a competitive player, or was one. They are dedicated to winning, and so usually stick to a small selection of maps.

Complete casual: Takes what maps are there, doesn't focus on certain maps, nor create anything.

Both: They tend to be CTF and battle map makers. EDIT: Now that I thought about it, they aren't really that rare, they just have phases.
Go to2013-10-14Whoever made this image, read this.
Grytolle wrote:
I made the installer. The problem is that the new plus developers stopped using the same location for the latest download for some reason. The installer could be updated, but I'm not sure where I have the source code.

So send me a message with the old and new URLs so I can make the old one redirect, I'm not that hard to contact emo
Go to2013-10-13Whoever made this image, read this. I Think that image was made one of the Members of NC. emo

EDIT: Right now I am uploading my 7z file that includes the latest plus version (so far) and both original installers from 1.24 and 1.24x
EDIT 2 These installers found on warez CD i made when I was kid.

FINAL EDIT: Here is the file https://mega.co.nz/#!3NNzkIBb!M4_8Iw0f0JlvNeqLxm036kRZBq9CumgqJ1tGzrtb18c
Go to2013-10-05Whoever made this image, read this.
Grytolle wrote:
I made the installer. The problem is that the new plus developers stopped using the same location for the latest download for some reason. The installer could be updated, but I'm not sure where I have the source code.


yeah, it was http://jazz2online.com/d3/plus.zip, now it is http://jazz2online.com/jj2plus/plus.zip
Another thing in the installer is "Download Zeal multiplayer levels". There are no Zeals anymore.
Would be nice if you could find the source and fix this!
Go to2013-10-05Whoever made this image, read this. I made the installer. The problem is that the new plus developers stopped using the same location for the latest download for some reason. The installer could be updated, but I'm not sure where I have the source code.
Go to2013-10-05Whoever made this image, read this.
Vivando wrote:
Actually I don't even know how to do it and I'm not sure if any of the active site admins know how to deal with it either. It was probably added by DZ a long time ago and it would probably need him to have it updated again.


In the past, there was the link to Digiex forum with a thread about how to download JJ2. The thread got removed (I don't know why). So I told admins to put another link. And someone made this installer, I don't remember who
Go to2013-10-05Whoever made this image, read this. Actually I don't even know how to do it and I'm not sure if any of the active site admins know how to deal with it either. It was probably added by DZ a long time ago and it would probably need him to have it updated again. (Or not.)
Go to2013-10-05Whoever made this image, read this.
Vivando wrote:
Should wait with updating the installer until the new plus is out, fairly soon.


Or you can update it now with the current plus. And when the new plus releases, update it again.
Go to2013-10-05Whoever made this image, read this. Should wait with updating the installer until the new plus is out, fairly soon.
Go to2013-10-05Whoever made this image, read this. lol


That's a nice way to have a conversation through the server list
Go to2013-10-05Whoever made this image, read this. Plus version of http://jazzjackrabbit.net/JJ2+i.exe installer is outdated, please update it
Go to2013-10-04Whoever made this image, read this. Which would still make it a problem for people who don't know what JJ2+ is. Anubis isn't talking about the one who made the picture, whoever made the picture just pointed out what can be a problem for newbies.
^^^