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By: stijn, in: It's about time to start wraping thingz up » Improving rules 2021-09-07 14:24
Who would be in this next group? If you know C+...
By: Splat, in: It's about time to start wraping thingz up » Improving rules 2021-09-07 08:30
The curent "plus-team" has had [u]almost[/u]_[u]10...
By: Splat, in: JJ2 ladder clan comparisons » Clan talk 2021-08-06 12:54
I would like to attempt to conduct an upvalueing o...
By: Splat, in: Unoriginal team names should be issued infractions » Clan talk 2021-08-06 12:05
"Unoriginal team names should be issued infraction...
By: Slaz, in: JJ2 ladder clan comparisons » Clan talk 2021-07-07 22:17
CDF is still the sexiest clan. :flex:
By: MaximuS , in: JJ2 ladder clan comparisons » Clan talk 2021-06-28 14:05
Best post of 2021 :-D
By: Splat, in: JJ2 needs more strictly moderated servers » JJ2 related 2021-06-27 05:15
The URL below is a link to the Waybackmachine Arch...
By: Splat, in: JJ2 ladder clan comparisons » Clan talk 2021-06-19 04:34
JJ2 ladder clan comparisons =====================...
By: Splat, in: Royal Families of JJ2 » Off topic 2021-06-13 06:28
During the prior decade, I gradually tried to offe...
By: Splat, in: Watching broadcasts while playing CW is cheating » Improving rules 2021-06-13 04:00
That just means the rules are flawed; it should de...
By: SpazTron64, in: Funniest moments! » Forum games 2021-06-10 01:01
Hahaha oh my god, I see some of you have saved som...
By: MasterSven, in: Watching broadcasts while playing CW is cheating » Improving rules 2021-06-06 15:18
Yes during stopped games it could be unethically a...
By: MasterSven, in: Royal Families of JJ2 » Off topic 2021-06-06 15:12
Jenny's parents played JJ2 as well, so JJ2 is cros...
By: Vivando, in: Royal Families of JJ2 » Off topic 2021-06-06 11:44
Indeed Anubis, was gonna say that :D
By: Vivando, in: Watching broadcasts while playing CW is cheating » Improving rules 2021-06-06 11:43
True, unexpected breaks during the game can potent...
By: Anubis, in: Watching broadcasts while playing CW is cheating » Improving rules 2021-06-06 11:30
I did have it open to look at the chat after some ...
By: Anubis, in: Royal Families of JJ2 » Off topic 2021-06-06 11:23
Grytolle and Leen both CC
By: Vivando, in: Watching broadcasts while playing CW is cheating » Improving rules 2021-06-06 09:30
Typically all game streams have a delay of several...
By: Splat, in: Royal Families of JJ2 » Off topic 2021-06-06 02:22
Are there any JJ2 couples that have kids already? ...
By: Splat, in: Watching broadcasts while playing CW is cheating » Improving rules 2021-06-06 01:11
Watching broadcasts while playing CW is cheating.....
By: Vivando, in: JJ2 needs more strictly moderated servers » JJ2 related 2021-05-28 22:16
I agree. It would take a lot of effort from the se...
By: Anubis, in: JJ2 needs more strictly moderated servers » JJ2 related 2021-05-28 16:50
It's not nearly as bad as 10 years ago to be hones...
By: Splat, in: JJ2 needs more strictly moderated servers » JJ2 related 2021-05-21 23:51
JJ2 needs more strictly moderated servers... Pe...
By: Splat, in: Commenting Guide » Clan talk 2021-05-20 04:24
I had compiled this list of prior ladder seasons' ...
By: Anubis, in: Commenting Guide » Clan talk 2021-05-19 23:17
Nice one, checking the number of the season before...
By: Splat, in: Commenting Guide » Clan talk 2021-05-18 09:02
Commenting Guide In preparation for commenting ...
By: Vivando, in: Funniest moments! » Forum games 2021-05-15 22:22
Nice one!
By: MasterSven, in: Funniest moments! » Forum games 2021-05-15 22:03
[21:46:23] [CDF]Mango: who is the leader of t3 [2...
By: Splat, in: VPN should be required in CW's » Site suggestions 2021-05-12 17:00
VPN should be required in CW's For those who do...
By: Splat, in: New players wanted » JJ2 related 2021-04-24 10:37
-Sorry for spam. (Posted too much on forums.) ....
By: Splat, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-04-05 15:42
It's not always plausible to open JJ2, especially ...
By: MaximuS , in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-25 01:15
I’m so happy that a lot of people feel connected...
By: Splat, in: Watching people drown » Ask Tira 2021-03-24 15:52
This question is about letting people drown in the...
By: Splat, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-23 13:49
Radar is actually ez 2 maek, just click on the map...
By: Kev, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-14 19:06
lmao k i hope this is my last comment in this issu...
By: Kev, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-14 16:06
If gpw rejects the council then thats absolutely l...
By: MasterSven, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-14 14:25
Basically we had a council like that before and we...
By: cooba, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-14 01:18
This should have been done 10 years ago.
By: Vivando, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-13 16:40
I am happy about this change. Mad props to Kev for...
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ok some time has passed since i sent the council i...
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By: stijn, in: It's about time to start wraping thingz up » Improving rules 2021-09-07 14:24
Who would be in this next group?

If you know C++ and would like to work on JJ2+, feel free to contact me.
By: Splat, in: It's about time to start wraping thingz up » Improving rules 2021-09-07 08:30
The curent "plus-team" has had almost_10_years to work on this project.

Game development schedules include deadlines; so, I suggest that for the people who are still working as a part of the plus-team: it's about time to finish off with whatever you're doing now, in terms of the JJ2-plus development project; and, let the next group continue with the project, for whomever might have any "fresh, new ideas" about continueing the effort toward this particular development project.

Code:
-> JJ2-plus development seemed to have been transfferred to a differrent dev-group, or, "development group" during the timeframe of 2011-2013 ...
... so, that means if you've still been working on plus since then, it means you're now at risk of not being able to enjoy the reward of your own effort


,,``We can spend about 5 more minutes talking about [[anti-radar]] and then after that we're going to have to move onto [[fixing and reducing lag]] until we run out of time soon,,``
-- Generic Teachers' Phrasebook (fake quote)
By: Splat, in: JJ2 ladder clan comparisons » Clan talk 2021-08-06 12:54
I would like to attempt to conduct an upvalueing of this post via:
- Telling what areas of the game that i think each of these teams can or cannot improve upon, accordingly:

{{ T3 }}
=-> In this team, i think that i was learning about, and improving upon, what Attack / Ready / Defend should mean, in the context of 2v2 or 3v3 capture the flag. I think this team had a definitively solid approach to recapturing, in terms of having multiple players ready to recapture the flag, whenever hunting isn't always the primary priority.

{{ CDF }}
=-> While playing with this team, i can recall expanding upon the repourtouire of capture levels, that i would know in advance of having played a challenge to a capture-the-flag game. I knew what to expect more often, than solely when levels like "Security Breach v2" or "Distopia" or "Happy Semiconductor" would be the selection. The CTF-level, "Jungles Edge" was most likely my specialty, prior to joining any team in the decade of 2010's.
... My ideas about the playstyle from this team isn't noteworthy, i would just say that CDF playstyle is sharply balanced with a focus on the diversity among the group of players in CDF

{{ CC }}
=-> I don't think that i was really a significant contributor in this team, in terms of playing CTF. Regardless, i think that CC would excel as a team, when trying to look at the areas and realms of various levels, and finding different ways to evaluate what ammo will be optimal to invade or maintain different coordinates that could be drawn upon each level.
... Knowing what campspots are going to be available at what timeframe within a match, guessing things like; "I can give my teammate this powerup at this point in the game, instead of taking it myself, and that will allow our team a higher percentage shot at victory" and firstly picking what level will result in the highest efficacy rate of making the game worthwhile overall: -- those are some ideas about what realm CC might excel at

{{ GPW }}
=-> I think that GPW has a playstyle that could be described like, try and have one or two players shoot at the enemy-flagholder, and then have the ally-flagholder stand on the allied base. Thus i thought of GPW being a team with quick killing-potential, and always looking for the opportunity to stand ready-to-score, when carrot(s) aren't the higher priority.
... Basically the "kill-and-go-score," or the "kill-and-go-$," playstyle for future reference, of an idea for a strategical playstyle

{{ CX }}
=-> This team can focus communicatively on distributing carrots, obviously players don't want opposing players to get the carrot. So knowing the respawn-timings of crucial/critical pickups like a Full NRG, or an RF power, is actually extremely impactful when it pertains to being able to grasp knowledge of any given level. Typically, the quasi-normative player is complaining when they have the flag and a teammate without the flag takes the vital C instead of them. So that had a result of a common complaint from non-CX flagholders when a teammate would take a carrot, preventing both the enemy flagholder and the allied flagholder, from regaining full health.

|][|][|][|][| ... So, i hope that some of these thoughts about CTF gameplay could ideally be helpful to some readers;
Thanks for reading my post
By: Splat, in: Unoriginal team names should be issued infractions » Clan talk 2021-08-06 12:05
"Unoriginal team names should be issued infractions"

- Although that stance would punish most, or all, of the current teams in this website:

... Look at the specific team names:

| ) CX ... represents an emoticon
|| ) VS ... describes a contest between 2 teams, parties, or individuals within the arena
||| ) CC ... a depiction of 2 waves being surfed simultaneously
|||| ) T3 ... a sporting videography trade name
||||| ) CDF ... reminiscent of the obscure video game mode called CTF

Please be more thoughtful and considerate about picking what variables will be called upon during a team-naming function.

EDIT: Tags: banana substitute, banana replacement therapy, banana alternative inorganic
By: Slaz, in: JJ2 ladder clan comparisons » Clan talk 2021-07-07 22:17
CDF is still the sexiest clan. emo
By: MaximuS , in: JJ2 ladder clan comparisons » Clan talk 2021-06-28 14:05
Best post of 2021 emo
By: Splat, in: JJ2 needs more strictly moderated servers » JJ2 related 2021-06-27 05:15
The URL below is a link to the Waybackmachine Archive record of the EpicMega Games message board JJ2 forum during October 1997. Please feel free to take a look:

https://web.archive.org/web/19971022034736/http://www.epicgames.co.uk/wwwboard/wwwjazz2.html

Note the following rules suggestion, typed in boldtext on the page:

"As we encourage people of any age to use this service, we would appreciate it if you could refrain from using bad language in your messages."

The description of the creative vision in that sentence should probably be adhered to on JJ2 itself.

Consequentially, players should be held accountable for their behavior in JJ2:

=-> Bullying other players, especially younger players, should make you lose respect from your peers.
=-> Uncalled-for insults, regardless of your rationale, should make you lose friends and potential allies.
=-> Cruelty, and being mean in general, should devalue your own enjoyment of life and sense of well-being.

Maybe (just maybe) those would be overtly-strict punishments; alas, I'm not contributing them as ideas for punishments; rather I'm describing my observation of the cause-and-effect interactions regarding players' levels of respect and tolerance toward one another, within the JJ2 community. So, in other words, don't take this post as an advisory, it's meant moreso in the sense of a predicative evaluation.
By: Splat, in: JJ2 ladder clan comparisons » Clan talk 2021-06-19 04:34
JJ2 ladder clan comparisons
===========================

Made this retrospective comparisons list of (once-)participatory ladder clans for the sake of anyone contemplating playing or joining a squad and in want of an opinion about the following groups. Please keep in mind that these notes are specifically respective of the periodical years on the list.

((LEGEND/KEY))
[Years of my personal membership] Team clantag...
Advantages:
Disadvantages:

[2011-2012] T3...
Adv.:
=-> Regularly scheduled trainings on weekends
=-> Adequate amount of active players on roster, enough for 3v3 practice sessions, not too many to play
Dis.:
=-> Lacking in terms of lingual unification, random bursts of foul remarks, sometimes disrespectfully
=-> Avoids interacting with players not apart of the roster

[2013-2014] CDF...
Adv.:
=-> Often has trainings utilizing the proprietary server and strategical information sharing is common
=-> Expansive playerbase with many oportunities for player development
Dis.:
=-> Habitual sexual harassment, interpersonal conflicts among players
=-> Frequent roster changes inhibit the stability of active squad

[2016-2017] CC...
Adv.:
=-> Most polite culture of any team on this list
=-> The longevity of the squad allows for a heightened decree of strategical awareness and knowledge
Dis.:
=-> Players would usually rather just chat instead of play any games
=-> Rather inactive roster, considering the tendency to ignore game invites and challenges

[2018] GPW...
Adv.:
=-> Extremely determined to improve at playstyle and at game skills
=-> Allaround more lingually comprehensible, thus seemingly more welcoming in terms of dialect
Dis.:
=-> Not enough discipline regarding sexual harassment, conflicts against other teams
=-> Also excessively extreme regarding absurdly heightened competitive expectations

[2019] CX...
Adv.:
=-> Contrastingly more relaxed in terms of competitive expectations
=-> Tolerance for intellectual and academical conversation among players
Dis.:
=-> Not exactly gentle about dealing with interpersonal conflicts
=-> Lack of team practice sessions means players have to improve moreso individually than collectively

.............
Commonalities
.............

-Do not join any ladder clan unless you are prepared to deal with the inane frequency of sexual harassment.
-Any of these teams can catalyze the development of players' game skills and literacy.
-Interpersonal conflicts are unavoidable and inevitable in this realm.

...........
Differences
...........

-Certain teams have scheduled practice sessions more-or-less often than others.
-Each squad tends to specialize in the development of specific aspects of gameplay patterns.
-Regional dialects may affect a player's compatibility or incompatibility with the roster language group.

(EDIT: I'll apologize for the crassly insulting tone of these posts. I try to enjoy playing whilst helping other players learn about this game by sharing my past experiences, and, I should be able to do that without degrading others in the process.)
By: Splat, in: Royal Families of JJ2 » Off topic 2021-06-13 06:28
During the prior decade, I gradually tried to offer basically my whole life and more to BRZ, we didn't communicate much since almost 2 years now. I thought I was getting led on and dismissed cyclically, and I don't have neither reason nor rationale to disrupt other ppl's relationships anyway, that is also a disservice to myself. For reference,my oponion was not having kids, being that we are not maried and I am not paying child suport: I said that in a conversation on JJ2 some years ago. Regardless, I'm beyond ignorantly posting this, just honestly acknowledging this history, in respect to thread content — although I admit this post is unjustified, I hope that itʻs dignified.
By: Splat, in: Watching broadcasts while playing CW is cheating » Improving rules 2021-06-13 04:00
That just means the rules are flawed; it should definitely be considered cheating to watch the broadcast while playing. The rules should be designed and enforced through neutral agency. It's discriminatory to prohibit some forms of unfair play while allowing other forms of unfair play, and it's exploition to invite me to comment about a game while teams are abusing the broadcast for cheating. I'm not commenting with the pretense that participating players are listening. There has to be much more strict adherence to fairness of play, and regulations pertaining to the issue, to justify a game being broadcast at all. A fair game being broadcast for viewers is rather discernable from a showmatch being performed like a circus. At the risk of citing extreme terms, those are obviously divergent options regarding the way games are going to be played.
By: SpazTron64, in: Funniest moments! » Forum games 2021-06-10 01:01
Hahaha oh my god, I see some of you have saved some of my most embarrassing moments online.
I sure was dumb when I was 12.
By: MasterSven, in: Watching broadcasts while playing CW is cheating » Improving rules 2021-06-06 15:18
Yes during stopped games it could be unethically abused to some degree. Same however goes for people who 'CTO' (and rejoin as spectators), which is not possible to verify as well. My stream had about 30 seconds delay which is basically useless for cheating.
In my opinion streams are mostly there for the clanmembers that aren't playing at that time so it would be very unwise to prevent them from watching.
By: MasterSven, in: Royal Families of JJ2 » Off topic 2021-06-06 15:12
Jenny's parents played JJ2 as well, so JJ2 is cross-generationial already.
By: Vivando, in: Royal Families of JJ2 » Off topic 2021-06-06 11:44
Indeed Anubis, was gonna say that emo
By: Vivando, in: Watching broadcasts while playing CW is cheating » Improving rules 2021-06-06 11:43
True, unexpected breaks during the game can potentially cause a situation where the delay does not apply. Minor, but crucial advantages could be gained in certain situations, depending on what the streamer's spectator targets are and what the commentators are commenting on, potentially revealing details like player health or exact location. In situations like that it could be potentially unethical to peek at the stream while playing the same game simultaneously. But indeed, sometimes the intentions aren't evil and one can be just curious to see how is the stream quality or is the stream crowd cheering for you, etc. These situations aren't always crystal clear and like I said, it would be impossible to control or prove anyone guilty, unless they explicitly confess such activity.
By: Anubis, in: Watching broadcasts while playing CW is cheating » Improving rules 2021-06-06 11:30
I did have it open to look at the chat after some rounds, or to spectate in rounds where I was not playing. If this is considered an issue I will just wait for the recording next time. Of course, even with a delay set, it can turn into an advantage in certain situations, for example when the game is stopped for a period longer than the delay, you would find out the enemy flagholder's position and health like that. Thanks for broadcasting and bringing the issue up.
By: Anubis, in: Royal Families of JJ2 » Off topic 2021-06-06 11:23
Grytolle and Leen both CC
By: Vivando, in: Watching broadcasts while playing CW is cheating » Improving rules 2021-06-06 09:30
Typically all game streams have a delay of several seconds (usually around 10) for the crowd, making it impossible to follow the game situation in real-time. Furthermore, streamers usually set an additional artificial delay for their streams (typically something like 30 seconds) to further nullify any attempts of following the game situation via their stream in order to gain an unfair advantage. I don't know if MS did use any setting like this in the stream in question, but even the stream's base delay does suffice in the case of JJ2's CTF game mode, where the game situation changes completely in a few seconds.

We have not forbidden players from watching their own game's streams in the rules either. There would be no effective way to control or prove this kind of activity anyway. For more details about our anti-cheating policy, see: https://jazzjackrabbit.net/index.php?league=1&season=1&op=articles&articleFunction=showArticle&articleId=55
By: Splat, in: Royal Families of JJ2 » Off topic 2021-06-06 02:22
Are there any JJ2 couples that have kids already? This has been a topic of conversation on JJ2 before. Based on the rumors, it seems there is a candidate for this category from GPW, however I'm not sure if that rumor was true or false. With some players getting married, and some players having longterm relationships; I'm curious if JJ2 will become a cross-generational game, hence the thread name "Royal Families of JJ2"
By: Splat, in: Watching broadcasts while playing CW is cheating » Improving rules 2021-06-06 01:11
Watching broadcasts while playing CW is cheating...

It was brought to my attention that some player(s?) had the broadcast open of the recent T3 vs CC game while participating...

Although I'm not a participant in ladder anymore and therefore it technically doesn't make a difference to me, being that I made the contribution of commenting for the broadcast, I will share my opinion that it's definitely cheating to watch the broadcast while playing. It makes me wonder if ladder is really meant to be a fair contest, or is it just attention seeking? This unruliness personally alienates me from being a fan of JJnet, and furthermore I don't want to contribute to a fraudulent game tournament, in the form of commenting, considering that players and teams don't make a genuine all-around effort to play fair. This ladder tournament has to prove that it's capable of consistently providing fair games for players in order for it to earn my respect.

Without pointing any (virtual) fingers at anyone specific, I'm just trying to make it clear that: watching a broadcast while playing is cheating, and I don't want to contribute to anymore fraudulent games that allow blatant cheating, and also that it's really pertainant for this tournament to prove that it's keeping the fairness of games in consideration before it gains anymore respect. Or, either that or just let ladder die(?), it's not doing me any good to spend my time and effort on commenting for a game that just results in players disregarding the fairness of the game.
By: Vivando, in: JJ2 needs more strictly moderated servers » JJ2 related 2021-05-28 22:16
I agree. It would take a lot of effort from the server owner alone to moderate chat effectively. This typically needs an active moderator team in the server to moderate the chat, like Anubis explained.

Inappropriate behavior in the game's livestream chats seems to be a rising trend too, which is sad to see.
By: Anubis, in: JJ2 needs more strictly moderated servers » JJ2 related 2021-05-28 16:50
It's not nearly as bad as 10 years ago to be honest, I remember a lot of my time as an admin of Zeal Duels included reacting to flame wars or analyzing chat logs regarding players' behaviour. However it comes to mind that, for example in Puke Nukem servers, some of the Trustee admins are inactive nowadays, for example Naps who stopped playing after recent events that happened last year. The rules about personal attacks are quite clear but there need to be more crew members available for reporting such behaviour to, maybe even a dedicated room in Puke Nukem Discord or an announcement that includes the usernames of crew members you can talk to.
By: Splat, in: JJ2 needs more strictly moderated servers » JJ2 related 2021-05-21 23:51
JJ2 needs more strictly moderated servers...

People join servers on JJ2 to play battle and CTF and tests and spectate. Players join to play games. The average JJ2 player doesn't want to hear about your sexual emotions or your interpersonal conflicts with other players or meaningless unprovoked insults.

There is an extreme amount of childishness in this game recently. There are teenagers who seem to lack the self-discipline to be more discerning about what they say, and what they don't say. There are adults who continue to behave inapropriately, irrespective of their age.

There should be at least some servers where players are required to behave maturely, or at least attempt to do so. JJ2 has to become an environment where younger players can learn to exemplify a decree of professionalism.

In contrast, it seems mostly JJ2 is where older players will instead continue to behave recklessly and inconsiderately. If this game's internet-mode were monitored by its copyright-holders (like many modern games are) then a plethora of player behaviors would result in restrictions against using official servers, or the game would just be depreciated by the gross negligence of its players regarding the procurement of a respectful-attitude environment.

I'm not just saying this to be hateful or to place blame or anything, I really just am disapointed by the lack of moderation concerning chat on JJ2, and I think that chat in JJ2 servers could afford to be moderated much more strictly, and also that players have to learn to be more discerning about what is apropriate to say in a scenario/situation like a JJ2 server.

It may not be entirely effortless to carefully consider what might be too extremely inconsiderate to be worth saying on a JJ2 server chat. That amount of effort, is what distinguishes exemplary behavior, from intolerable behavior though.

Thanks for taking the time to read my opinion and consider my message // Sorry again about the forum spam
By: Splat, in: Commenting Guide » Clan talk 2021-05-20 04:24
I had compiled this list of prior ladder seasons' top teams; although the information is not verified fully correct, it should be at least enough to keep track of how many ladder seasons there have been.

Code:
S1- RA
S2- CC
(2011)
S3- GPW
(2012)
S4- CX
S5- T3*
S6- GPW
(2013)
S7- T3
(2014)
S8- T3
(2015)
S9- CX
(2016)
S10- CC*
(2017)
S11- CX
(2018)
S12- CX
(2019)
S13- CX
S14- CX*
S15- GPW
(2020)
S16- GPW
S17- GPW


Therefore it follows that the current ladder season is the 18th.

(The asterisks are nothing substantial: just denoting that the team had a particular egoist on their roster at the time, such as myself.)

According to this data, here is a statistical breakdown:

Code:
(Total ladder championships, seasons 1 through 17)

CX - 6
GPW - 5
T3 - 3
CC - 2
RA - 1
By: Anubis, in: Commenting Guide » Clan talk 2021-05-19 23:17
Nice one, checking the number of the season beforehand is a great idea. And of course knowing who is the referee emo What I also like to do is check historical data of the playing teams (wins vs losses, on which maps they have played against each other in the past). This was for example our first clanwar loss against t3, out of two games played in total. Past clanwars can be checked under "All clanwars" in the jj.net menu, or under "National Tournament" for past national tournaments (and we've got an archive of our own past clanwars from 2000 till 2008, before jj.net. None of those clans is active on the ladder anymore though, except for GpW).
By: Splat, in: Commenting Guide » Clan talk 2021-05-18 09:02
Commenting Guide

In preparation for commenting during the recent CW, I wrote down some lines in advance, lest I would've had to improvise much more and risking saying something too dumb or too annoying, or worse being blatantly disrespectful or overtly rude...

I thought I might share what these lines were, as an example for future commenters...

- Clanwar commentary...

"Hello all & welcome to the JJnet season (??) clanwar of the teams (XYZ) & (XYZ)"

"Thanks for tuning into our broadcast of the ladder"

"Score (XYZ)"
"(Player) captures (red/blue) flag"

"(Player) takes the (up/down/left/right) carrot"

"A timeout is in effect"

"Refferee will be (name)"

"This round was (A) points (XYZ) & (B) points (XYZ)"

"The match concludes w/ an (XYZ) victory against (XYZ)"

"The broadcast stream URL is available at (https://www...)"

"The game was scheduled at (00:00) time on (unknown) day"

=-> Reference key: (?? = what ladder season is it), (XYZ = abreviation of team name), (Player = whomever), (red/blue = current color of the flag), (up/down/left/right = location of the carrot or other item on the level), (Name = refering to the ref), (A/B = number of points), (URL = link to broadcast stream), (time/day = whenever the event is scheduled)

...So maybe this commentary guide could be helpful to anyone who comments a live game, it helped me prioritize what I will say and prevent precarious improvisational speech.
By: Vivando, in: Funniest moments! » Forum games 2021-05-15 22:22
Nice one!
By: MasterSven, in: Funniest moments! » Forum games 2021-05-15 22:03
[21:46:23] [CDF]Mango: who is the leader of t3
[21:46:26] *** -t3>SJ komt in het spel
[21:46:26] Console: >> -t3>SJ is automatically logged in (Admin)
[21:46:29] [CDF]MS: xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
By: Splat, in: VPN should be required in CW's » Site suggestions 2021-05-12 17:00
VPN should be required in CW's

For those who don't know: A "virtual private network" (VPN) hides the IP address of the client from web-connections on the internet.

This means that hackers who want to DDOSS you will be unlikely to gain information about your actual computer's online IP address.

Notably, "clanwars" (CW's) have seemingly been targets of numerous DDOSS attempts during prior JJnet ladder seasons.

If all the players and other CW participants (refs, broadcasters, etc.) had an active VPN, then maybe the hackers could refrain from attempting to DDOSS games for JJnet.

Offered by a plethora of internet servicers, there are a number of free VPN programs available. Playing JJ2 with VPN active might produce additional lag, although selecting a VPN-server within a proximity of the JJ2-server could limit this extra lag to a less substantial amount. The tradeoffs betwixt: a marginal amount of extra lag, or, the risk of a game being ruined by DDOSS...

Are the rationale for the argument offered from this thread. Please also consider that contrarily: I cannot guarantee that using VPN will prevent DDOSS; hack attempts; any other type of interference, cheating, sabatoge or malintention; or the potential for a game being crashed overall. I'm not an authority regarding ladder, nor am I an expert about internet security and potential game tournament vulnerability. Just making this wild claim, so that perhaps, any scheduled or predetermined ladder matches won't be deterred by a lack of internet security protocols regarding game connectivity.

{(I again apologize again for the spam.)}
By: Splat, in: New players wanted » JJ2 related 2021-04-24 10:37
-Sorry for spam. (Posted too much on forums.)

...Just had a quick chat on JJ2's internet mode about this topic

I think that JJ2 is in a prime place for esteemed individuals to start playing this game online:

1. The plus-mod is available and obtainable quite simply. Without JJ2+plus, it's still a great time to join "vanilla" compatible servers. There are a plurality of open servers listed, whether they don't require the plus-mod, or they require the latest version to play.

2. Alot of experienced players are inactive or have quit playing. That means there's more free space in games to allow players to partake, without dealing with the stigmatism of "noob" accusation. These same players who've quit, furthermore won't be habitually cycling to the same maps/levels, and following cliche gameplay/teamchat patterns; in strategical, tactical, and teamplay terms.

3. Release of outstanding maps/levels has improved to a point there's a mulchitude of interesting and intriguing options. Games aren't limitd to the old classics anymore and many artists who've designed levels, tilesets, scripts and more will most likely apreciate players taking the time to test and try out their creations; and also adapt or evolve their works of JJ2-content in response to player feedback and mapool evaluations.

If you didn't already know, then you might check JJ2's online multiplayer mode via the New Game menu dialogue:
=-> "Party Mode" =-> "Internet Play" =-> "Join another game as client" =-> "1, 2, 3, 4... players" =->
Then input your choice of nick-nametag, fur-colours, control-schematic, etc.

To qualify this blatant advert, I'll jump the gun by sharing another opinion:
JazzJackrabbit2+ would potentially be rated for an older age of maturition than what was let on at the game's premier.
Although the official single players episodes exhibit restraint along the lines of explicit content...
The modern standard about this game on the internet, especially concerning online games with plus, is now nowhere near apropriate for kids, and rather beyond adult allegory.
I'm only bringing this to attention, in order to place a hopefully fair warning on this ploy for new players.

(Please feel free to reply to this thread, if you should agree or disagree, or have any response)
By: Splat, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-04-05 15:42
It's not always plausible to open JJ2, especially for the sake of dialogue. Public availability of computers is scarce in most areas. Loading JJ2 onto a public computer with limited availability is also more deliberate. Thereby talking on WWW instead of JJ2 needn't be disincentivized.

Furthermore since I retired from playing ladders, yet I played about 8 years worth of ladders, denying players the ability to communicate about ladder will just lead to a lack of communication. That maybe fine if ladder is supposed to continue with just invitee participants, although that'd really be a change of events.

Granted that this season of ladder appears to have only CDF and T3 jointly vyeing for 200 points, with GPW and CX not participating, and CC not distinctly contending for 1st place. This scenario could be actually optimal for ladder overall, if there's just marginal interest from CC, CX, and GPW. Clans that are most invested into the ladder won't have random other teams competing. Most particularly, if players from T3 and CDF are controlling the rules of ladder, there's no rationale for other teams to compete on the basis of a fair tournament competition, with an (arguably imbalanced) level playing field.

My personal opinion technically disregards the current season; I just don't want to play anymore ladder. I'm not motivated to play so many games nonstop. This thread isn't about me though and my point overall is that -- it's pointless to try and decide who gets to share their thoughts on a topic (such as radar usage during ladders) because that will make you thoughtless and oblivious, and most people would sooner be thoughtful than thoughtless; that much is glaringly obvious.
By: MaximuS , in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-25 01:15
I’m so happy that a lot of people feel connected to the scene, I would be much happier if they would take their time and play.

Private opinion. People who don’t participate should have little to say on how things are or should be.
By: Splat, in: Watching people drown » Ask Tira 2021-03-24 15:52
This question is about letting people drown in their own mistakes.

For a hyperbolic illustrative example, just imagine this scenario.

Some people are standing over a frozen lake. Let three of these people be called X, Y, and Z.

For some arbitrary reason, a fight starts among the 3 of them.

X and Y continue fighting violently and maliciously while Z tries to avoid or escape the brawl. Unsurprisingly, during the violence, X and Y fall into the frozen lake, and are then incapable of climbing out to safety. Z, feeling betrayed by the onset of violence and threatened by involvement within the fight, neglects to offer any help to the others, contending that if they didn't want to drown in a frozen lake, then they shouldn't have put themselves in harm's way while risking the safety of the people around them.

So my question would be, is it smart for Z to just ignore them, based upon the notion that if X and Y were saved, they could just repeatedly get Z into trouble? Or is it smarter for Z to try and save them, although risking a furtherance of danger and harm?

In other words — if someone is being selfdestructive in order to smite you: should you try to help them in lieu of their goal of hurting you, or should you just observe their selfdestructive behavior and conclude that the consequences of their actions are their own punishment enough that there's no reason to intervene?
By: Splat, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-23 13:49
Radar is actually ez 2 maek, just click on the map several times at once, it's basic echolocation.
By: Kev, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-14 19:06
lmao k i hope this is my last comment in this issue.
so from what i understood among other things gpw is very sceptical about future decisions/behavior of admins, as theoretically admins could just make clanladder related decisions on their own again, without the council.

i think there are 2 scenarios in case gpw joins the council/ladder:

1) eventually admins break their word and fck things up, in which case you have verification of your initial doubts about this and simply leave jjnet behind for good.
2) against your expectations admins do not fck things up or do some bad stuff, the council runs nicely and makes the clanladder related decisions, and the few gpw members who perhaps might be interested in playing in the ladder have more power in it.

youre not losing anything if you find it out by simply giving it a try.

either way, if you ever change your mind in the future i guess gpw has their place in the council. take care
By: Kev, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-14 16:06
If gpw rejects the council then thats absolutely legit. As i got some feedback now i just want to make sure that the reason for the rejection isnt based on some misunderstanding about the role of certain (even quite inactive) jjnet admins. Admins representing their clans in the council have the same rights/power as everyone else in the council and they arent supposed to push for their own personal opinions but to represent the opinion of their clan. Again, a decision is only made when all clans agree to it. So no, admins dont have special power in the council.
By: MasterSven, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-14 14:25
Basically we had a council like that before and we delivered a lot of good work imo and my expectations are that this will be so again.

https://jazzjackrabbit.net/index.php?league=1&season=1&op=com&id=668

Check out the first line of this newspost.
By: cooba, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-14 01:18
This should have been done 10 years ago.
By: Vivando, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-13 16:40
I am happy about this change. Mad props to Kev for suggesting this idea. The main problem with the JJNet crew was always that the decision making power was divided unequally among active clans, which naturally caused many complaints among the years. Once the councils are complete, we can ensure that every decision is applied with full reason, as full consensus among the clan representatives needs to be achieved. Time will tell how this new system will work for evolving the competition itself as well, as I'm sure that many of the council members (new ones too) will have fresh ideas to bring up.

Meanwhile we, the people running JJNet as its crew members no longer need to worry about how to deal with the rules or how to make judgements, but can focus on site maintenance and development. Last spring I retired as a JJNet admin after having had sort of a burnout from administrating the ladder. I had been doing a lot of its tasks alone, culminating in the cheating investigation which was a heavy burden on its own, with lots of external pressure from all directions too. Luckily I wasn't forced to make any final decisions on my own. Nowadays I'm still part of the crew as a site developer, though I have been assisting with admin decisions too in the background. Teamwork is way more fun than being under pressure alone. I am anyway happy to give the rest of the decision-making power away to the council (which I am part of anyway), to divide power and workload more equally among other people too.
By: Kev, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-13 13:15
ok some time has passed since i sent the council invitation message to urbs to share it with gpw discord server. as im not exactly sure whether he shared the message in it or not, id like to post it here too, so every gpw member can read it. so here it goes:

In order to make the clanladder competition more democratic and fair, jjnet crew has agreed to transfer the decision making power for every clanladder-competition related decision from jjnet admins to the clan councils. This includes decisions about rules changes, judgement about rules violations (which was different in the past) and mapool changes, for example.

Curently there is already a rules council and a mapool council. We intend to use those two. depending on what issues come up, different councils could be needed.
The councils are supposed to consist of about two people of each presented clan, in order to discuss things. Regardless of the exact number of clan members in the council, each clan will always have 1 vote when it comes to decision making. Every clan’s vote is equal. This way all present clans have equal power. Decisions will only be made and executed if ALL present clans agree to it. To give an example: if its suggested to increase timelimit to 15 minutes and 3/4 clans vote “yes” but 1/4 clans votes “no”, then the timelimit will stay the same.

At least that’s how the rules council is supposed to work. We will probably need a slightly different approach (other than all clans agreeing on all maps) in the mapool council. We will decide about how the mapool is selected, when all council members are present there.

For this system to work, all included clans will be required to be willing to make a compromise every now and then, as decisions about rules can only be made when all clans agree. But as there are reasonable people in every clan, we hope that this system will be successful in managing the clanladder-competition.

Jjnet crew will continue to run the website and other jjnet related issues. But everything related to the clanladder-competition will be decided in common agreement by all present clans in the council and not by jjnet admins, anymore. This way all clanladder related decisions are made by a more representative group of people.

Ideas and suggestions are welcome, too.


if gpw wants to join the council, please let us know. ofc feel free to refuse the invitation if you dont want to be part of the council.
By: Splat, in: Primetime - Rag vs Splat » Off topic 2021-03-13 00:56
Thanks for making me win, m0ti, however I don't think that you're actually authorized to declare who is/was the winnier of this debate.

I must decline the victory, because Ragnarok didn't offer any terms of unconditional surrender, so the debate/flamewar must continue

BTW, saw your comment about me, it was like weeds/months ago, just I canot comment on this site anymore. May teh love be with u
By: Vivando, in: [MULTI] Domination map making contest! » JJ2 related 2021-03-11 23:31
Congratulations to Violet! emo emo
By: MaximuS , in: [MULTI] Domination map making contest! » JJ2 related 2021-03-11 20:49
The DOM map making contest has ended with Violet CLM taking the first place with two outstanding submissions - Genshin Over It and King of Wuwang Hill

I would like to thank everyone who took part, as well as those who unfortunately did not meet the deadline, for showing intrest throughout the time.


Reality check.
In the initial timeframe, we received two entries, the winning ones, the only ones submitted. Those two are super high quality, with stunning visuals and creative gameplay.
At the first deadline I decided to extend the contest by a month since the times are tough and a good chunk of the initial time was overlapping with x-mas.
The extension was justified but the condition on minimum amount of submissions to end the contest was a bad, very unfair move to the person who has actually submitted in time.

I believe that the high quality of those entries might have discouraged other people from potentially entering the competition.


This contest had to end to make space for better, newer things.

Kind Regards,
Bee.
By: Pariah, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-10 07:22
@cooba: yep.
By: Splat, in: ¿How to play CtF for rabbits? » JJ2 related 2021-03-07 22:58
Q: Jazz Jackrabbit 2's Capture the Flag gamemode is too complicated. How do you play CtF?

A: A score in CTF is made by joining either blue or red team, stealing the flag of the opposing color's team from their base, and preventing the enemy team from stealing the ally flag, then bringing the enemy flag to the ally base. A score can only be made when the ally flag is still at the ally base. If you bring the enemy flag to your base, while an enemy player has possession of your flag, there will not be a score. CTF by default is played with 3 maximum HP. If the JJ2 gamefiles aren't patched to version 1.23 or more, then do not touch the border of the level, unless there is a wall of masked tiles there.
By: [GpW]Urbs, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-07 21:39
I understand why some of our players are pissed, but I would prefer if they took their anger out on their opponents in a more direct way via ladder and clanwars.

Now I need to have a talk with GpWers (I apologize to all parties for not doing this sooner, will come around to the server next week), but looking at it from a distance I can see why this split happened, but I can't condone it, even though I'm glad that the initial ruling was overturned (where, btw I'd like to thank the admins for swiftly deleting the initial malicious spamfest from one of our competitors).

Saying that we should all get along would be just plain stupid, but I do hope that our players see that the admins are trying to move things in a new direction. SJ wrote and apologized to me even though I don't think he owed me an apology so I can only give kudos there. Now it could be that the differences are irreconcilable, but I hope that this isn't going to be the case.
By: cooba, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-06 16:09
You're a psycho.
By: Pariah, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-06 04:13
well thanks Kev, i never herd of any of this. i never had any problem with grytolle and kyro being admins,

[quote[Kev[--> oh boy that escalated quickly! Jjnet is not Russian/Chinese government.]
well im suggesting it should be. overly democratic institutions are a mistake.


[qoute[cooba[CX was a mistake]
i disagree, CX is great. gpw would never be as great as it is without CX to beat us into shape.
By: cooba, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-06 02:14
CX was a mistake
By: MasterSven, in: cheating and admins » Site suggestions 2021-03-05 00:00
I don't think the rules changed that much over the past few years, especially in a way that would allow GpW to perform much better. Speaking of rules, still looking forward to the completion of the councils. I already got a list of rules to tweak.